Package: mailman
Version: 2.1.5-1
Severity: normal
Tags: upstream
The mailman mail-to-news gateway changes the Message-Id to one different from
the received mail --- or perhaps doesn't set it at all, which means the news
inject
mechanism will insert a different one. This has the effect of breaking threads
in
pairs of connected newsgroups <-> mailing lists.
Note that there is no way to avoid this ill effect by reading the group either
as
news or mail. If you read as mail, then replies by news to articles posted by
mail
will break the thread; if you read as news, then replies by mail to articles
posted
by mail will break the thread.
As an example, compare these two sets of headers for the same message.
The first is copied from the Google archive for gnu.emacs.help; the second is
from
the copy of the message I posted through help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org:
>>> header, news version
Path:
g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news4.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!shelby.stanford.edu!not-for-mail
From: Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: emacs-snapshot keybinding problem
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:08:19 -0800 (PST)
Lines: 12
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NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Trace: news.Stanford.EDU 1136524104 22134 199.232.76.165 (6 Jan 2006 05:08:24
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Angelina Carlton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com;
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In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/help-gnu-emacs>
List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>> header, mail version
X-From-Line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 06 00:08:17 2006
Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:08:17 -0500
Received: from itz by unicorn with local (Exim 4.60)
(envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
id 1Eujpp-0001ND-FL; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:08:17 -0500
To: Angelina Carlton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs-snapshot keybinding problem
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Jan 2006 00:08:17 -0500
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Gnus-Mail-Source: directory:~/Mail/spool
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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