30.04.2015 08:03, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> On 30-04-2015 01:29, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> 
>> I don't have brazillian keyboard, I don't have a way to verify this.
> 
> This is no excuse.

I don't ask for an excuse really, thank you.

>> The best way to go from here is to let upstream to accept the needed
>> change, this way it will be in debian automatically.
> 
> Well, it is certainly the best way for someone. It is not the best way for me 
> and all brazilian users, as we have been applying this patch for years:

It is the best way for everyone, to finally stop people
applying local patches.  I don't see what you're arguing
against.

> Upstream acknowledges this bug since 2012:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1038136

A bugreport filed against upstream does not mean upstream
acknowleges it or that upstream ever seen it.  No one from
qemu team made any comment in there.  But it doesn't matter,
I merely corrected your claim, it does not change the fact
that the problem exists.

Note that I know well enough everything you quoted, because
it was me who changed attributes of your duplicate bugreport
to point to the upstream bugtracker.

> but does not solve this 1 (one) line problem. On the other hand, Debian 
> usually applies patches to solve bugs that eventually are adopted by upstream 
> so I do not see why this could not be the case given that Jessie was just 
> released and we will have two years of Debian unstable development from now.

And before applying, I need to hear reaction from someone
who actually understands how the table which is being
patches is used, and why it is used this way.  We had
enough "fixes" which broke some other setups, or plain
wrong features rejected by upstream for good reason but
which we had to support for years because users relied
on them.

The best info about this prob is present at
http://blog.nielshorn.net/2011/03/qemu-and-brazilian-keyboards/ ,
and that post talks about several issues there, while the
patch you're talking about addresses only one.

This is exactly why I said the best is to talk with the
upstream. Apparently it is not as good for you as whining
at debian maintainers.  And this is exactly what I actually
did, pinging the developers after you submitted this bug
report, effectively reminding me about this problem again,
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/333402 .

I don't want wrong or half-backed or even broken solutions.
And I don't need any excuses for that.

Thank you,

/mjt


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