On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:14:07PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > One claim is changed, see below.
> > On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Hello, > > > In summary: > > > a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be > > > kept. > > > b) New installs should get systemd-sysv as default init with a debconf > > > message about alternative init systems. > > Since there is no interest in adding a debconf message on new installs, > > I wish for a menu entry in the advanced part of the installer to be able > > to install a new system with sysvinit-core or upstart! > That's even more unlikely than to add a debconf message (which would be > package-owned). Yes, debian-installer is frozen. This would add new > udebs, new strings, new everything. We're actually trying to release. Debian releases when it's ready. If large numbers of our users are going to have a bad experience with jessie as a result of being switched to systemd, then we should take appropriate steps to address that, even if that means unfreezing the installer. I am not saying that making init systems a choice in the installer is the right solution here; I don't think that it is. But I also don't think that the release freeze can reasonably be an argument against it. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org