Quoting Martin Steigerwald (mar...@lichtvoll.de):
> Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2014, 18:23:38 schrieb Serge Hallyn:
> > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org):
> > > Then, reading #754910, it looked like Serge was about to work with
> > > Daniel, but finally, didn't. No sign of this change in #754910, which is
> > > at least surprising. It's also very surprising to see the package just
> > 
> > As Daniel said we had an agreement.  He was going to push the package.  He
> > failed to do that, causing over a week's delay in straightening out the
> > non-systemd-upgrade mess.  But instead of dropping in on that thread and
> > apologizing, he's complaining here.
> 
> My experience is that is usually does not work expecting someone else to 
> apologize, before having apologized oneself for the part of the behavior that 
> contributed to the undesirable outcome.
> 
> > I have enough to do that when I can delegate something to someone else I'm
> > happy and thankful to them.  Last week I was hoping that would be the
> > situation here.  Alas.
> 
> Please talk to one another assuming everyone had good intentions.
> 
> Daniel who maintains a ton of packages started to orphan them (see debian-
> devel-changes). 
> 
> I bet thats not the intended outcome.
> 
> To me this conflict does not appear to be unsolvable. Please try to resolve 
> it.
> 
> A good step would be if one side starts to say "I am sorry" for some of their 
> behavior that could have been rude. Usually both sides have their share in a 
> conflict.

I *am* sorry that some of dba's time was likely wasted, especially since
it's obvious he has a shortage of it, maintaining quite a few packages.
For the same reason I fail to see how having one less package to
maintain could be anything but a relief.

The bug messages on orphan bugs say something along the lines of "not worth
it".  If you're purely maintaining those packages to help out, and you feel
it is a strain time-wise, then how could not having to maintain another
package make you feel it's "not worth it".


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