Hi Diederik,
Am 22.01.2014 11:15, schrieb Diederik de Haas:
Hi Karsten,
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 10:47:48 Karsten Malcher wrote:
Now i deinstalled all Debian NVidia packages in this installation and
installed the actual NVIdia driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38.run
I understand your eagerness to fix this asap, but I'm not going to interfere
with Andreas bug-triage efforts.
Of course i understand this.
But from my point of view i never could made an upgrade in Debian without
problems.
I always where using Nvidia cards.
Before wheezy i never got an running X without original NVidia drivers.
In wheezy the first time the Nvidia Debian package was running for me.
It seems it was the last time. :-(
Any update of the kernel will cause the loose of X.
But I can say this:
- When trying to find a problem, only change 1 variable at a time, otherwise
you don't know which change caused a change in behaviour.
i only made an "simple" system upgrade from wheezy to jessie.
- Don't use NVidia's .run file if you're reporting an issue on a Debian
package, since they're not meant to be co-installed (and Debian's package
cleans thing up from a possible previous .run installation).
That's why i made this test in a different installation.
It was a simple test if kernel 3.12.6 and the NVidia driver will work together.
- Use the same system/installation on all bug-triage efforts, otherwise you're
comparing completely different systems (btw 3.12 kernel on wheezy and not from
backports?)
Somehow it must be possible to have a working PC. ;-)
In this case i hold back the upgraded installation for this bug.
There is no additional mix up.
I've been running Debian's NVidia packages for years, without any issue,
including on my freshly installed system I'm running now.
That's the main problem.
On a fresh installation you don't have this problems.
In most of the cases this will work.
But what's about of the hundreds of personal configurations for mail,
programming, viewing and working?
You will loose them with a new installation and need to much time to get them
back.
In my case i have a "master installation" with the individual settings for 3
users!
This installation will be cloned to all working PC's.
When i want to upgrade to a newer distribution it must be an upgrade or it will
kill me.
I think this problems are not my personal problems and touch many users.
So upgrade problems should also be in a distribution focus.
Cheers
Karsten
HTH,
Diederik
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: Bug#735424: nvidia-driver: New vesa test
Datum: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:47:48 +0100
Von: Karsten Malcher <deb...@dct.mine.nu>
Antwort an: deb...@dct.mine.nu
An: Diederik de Haas <didi.deb...@cknow.org>
Kopie (CC): pkg-nvidia-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Hello Diederik,
that's really interesting.
So it must be a configuration problem of previous installations?
Do you have made a fresh installation or an upgrade?
I have made now an additional test:
On a third partition i have a copy of my wheezy installation.
In this installation i have an self compiled kernel V 3.12.6 for some driver
tests with a newer kernel.
Up to now i booted there using the neauveau driver with this configuration:
Section "Device"
Identifier "n"
Driver "nv"
EndSection
Now i deinstalled all Debian NVidia packages in this installation and installed
the actual NVIdia driver
NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38.run
I did have some problems with compilation of the driver, although i installed
the kernel with a debian building script.
ii linux-image-3.12.6 3.12.6 amd64 Linux
kernel binary image for version 3.12.6
ii linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64 3.2.23-1 amd64
Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
But the driver could be installed an is running fine!
So something with the configuration or the debian package of 319.82 is not
correct.
The newer driver 331.38 is running on the same installation as the upgraded one
in this bug.
Cheers
Karsten
Andreas,
I have the same graphics card (GT 430), the same driver version and (almost)
the same kernel (Linux bagend 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.8-1 (2014-01-19)
x86_64 GNU/Linux) and everything is running fine here.
So if you want me to check/test things so 'notes' can be compared, just let me
know (I'm subsribed to the pkg-nvidia-devel ML).
Cheers,
Diederik
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