Of course, they can. Yet, it would be nice to have a default that works in all situations without user (or admin) intervention.
Best, Thiemo On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs <x...@debian.org> wrote: > On 7 December 2013 15:09, Thiemo Nagel <thiemo.na...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Dmitrijs, >> >> thank you for your reply! The proposed solution sounds good, except >> for servers which rarely (re)configure their network. Is there another >> option that would work for servers, too? >> > > Servers that rarely (re)configure network or boot, can also setup cron > to call to ntpdate or install an NTP client daemon when they are first > configured. > > Regards, > > Dmitrijs. > > > >> Best, >> Thiemo >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs <x...@debian.org> wrote: >>> reassign 731594 ntpdate >>> retitle 731594 Please make ntpdate package priority standard >>> thanks >>> >>> On 7 December 2013 10:25, Thiemo Nagel <thiemo.na...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Package: debian-installer >>>> Severity: normal >>>> Tags: d-i >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I think that a modern OS should take care of time synchronisation without >>>> requiring user intervention. As far as I can see, Debian doesn't install >>>> any >>>> kind of NTP client by default. (I'd guess that it falls back behind Mac and >>>> Windows in this regard. Even my mobile phone synchronises time >>>> automatically.) >>>> >>>> Thus, I'd suggest to install as part of the base system an NTP package >>>> (eg. ntp, openntpd, chrony) configured to act as client only. >>>> >>>> This issue has already been discussed nine years ago, however I believe >>>> that >>>> user's expectations have changed through the passage of time and thus a >>>> fresh >>>> look at the topic may be warranted. >>>> >>>> http://bugs.debian.org/397649 >>>> >>> >>> I fully agree that ntp client should be installed by default. Checking >>> dependencies of the available candidates (such that we can see what >>> other packages they pull into standard set): >>> * ntp - libopts25 (optional) >>> * ntpdate - all good >>> * openntpd - all good >>> * chrony - timelimit (optional) >>> >>> Nothing too scary. >>> >>> The other concern raised was people on intermittent and metered >>> connections (3G / dial-up), who may not want to have a daemon running >>> that can't do anything, nor a daemon that would establish unwanted >>> internet connections. To this extend ntpdate is the best package, as >>> it is only executed upon network configuration without a long running >>> daemon, nor periodic cron job. >>> >>> To resolve this bug report one of the above packages should become >>> priority standard. From d-i point of view, any would do =) >>> >>> I recommend for ntpdate to become such one. Therefore I am reassigning >>> this bug to package "ntpdate" for its maintainer to consider this >>> change. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Dmitrijs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
