On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:45:03PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
> On 16-07-13 14:52, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > The only case where the dependencies matter are for people like me who 
> > use one or few GTK+ applications in a non-GNOME environment.
> > And there they really should be dependencies.
> 
> I am also no GNOME user. But lets look at the Debian policy [1]. (below).
> 
> To me it says that suggests is very reasonable if liferea works with
> only red crosses at the location of the icons, which seems to be the
> case. Depends is definitely overkill. I could be persuaded to believe
> that recommends is good enough, but you have to give better arguments
> than merely some red crosses.
>...

Depends is definitely required.

After an "apt-get install <package>" a user can expect a package to work 
correctly, even when recommended packages are not installed by default.

And epiphany-browser without gnome-icon-theme-symbolic is simply not 
usable.

And liferea should always display the correct icons.

And as long as packages like liferea or epiphany-browser have 
dependencies on their translations that are several MB for each of the 
packages, your attempt to reason against depending on the icons used by 
a package are completely absurd.

Debian forces me to have 400MB of translations installed, of which
I never use any. But for icons that are actually used in the 
application you claim a dependency would be to strong?

Package dependencies should ensure that after installing a package 
everything that is needed by the package is installed, so that users
like David or me won't end up with wrong icons or no icons at all after 
installing an application.

18 years ago the disk where my Linux was running was only 400MB
in size, but today the 400MB of translations are nothing I'd care
about. Neither are the icons a problem.

And when someone really cares much about the size of the filesystem,
he will anyway use a from-source distribution where he can also 
influence the compile time options instead of Debian.

> Paul
>...

cu
Adrian

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