-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.06.2013 15:01, schrieb Ondřej Surý: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Jan Wagner <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: When there's some activity on the > upstream part, we can create a plan. The last commit in suhosin > repository on github was more than _a year_ ago. So, you are trying > to create plan for non-existent software.
Indeed, no activity code-wise yet. > With the actual PHP packages, it is not possible to install a > package named "php5-suhosin". Do you want to tell me, the PHP > Maintainers didn't consider that php5-suhosin maybe come back? > > Yes, I don't think the php5-suhosin will ever come back. And even > if it did I don't plan re-adding suhosin patch to php5 sources. This is, what I did expected and I can understand this decision. Stefan got more and more unreliable with suhosin. >> You won't be able to use backports due PHP 5.5 in sid. > > Maybe I'm dumb, but I actually don't see a problem, if there occure > a new suhosin upstream release, which maybe compatible with PHP 5.5 > and 5.4. Did I oversee anything? > > Maybe this could work, but you won't be able to test it with PHP > 5.4 before you will upload to backports, which is not very > QA-wise. I can do that with my own repros and push the suhosin package there and test it in a wider scale. >> If there's a new stable suhosin, we can always release new php >> 5.4 via pu, but I think that it's not worth the trouble for >> wheezy. > > - From my experiences with pu, this will likely rare happen til > not. > > Not true, there's already php5 accepted in pu. Okay ... I was talking here about pu in general, not php specific. > Anyways this will add a big expense and even shifts a system where > php5-common and php5-suhosin can be installed along far in the > future. > >> Users can always use unpackaged extension with php5-dev. > > Which unfortunately doesn't scale in larger setups. > > Suhosin upstream is unrealiable with releases and promises[*]. And > we didn't have a correct version number at hand when we have > released wheezy. If you had given me the correct version number > which will support PHP 5.4 (confirmed by upstream), I would have > changed the Breaks to be versioned. Okay ... we should have had talked a bit much more about this topic. With suhosin abounded upstream, I didn't follow your packaging very close, so I wasn't aware of the issue (as the change was on your side, I would have wished you pinged me). Anyways, there was also the #662637-debacle, so this messed the situation more than needed. > * - My understanding is that he just lost interest in PHP > (-suhosin) and have moved on to some other projects (dayjob). We share this understanding. ;) Anyways ... looking into https://github.com/stefanesser/suhosin/issues/20#issuecomment-15631909 and even in https://github.com/stefanesser/suhosin/issues/27#issuecomment-18741064 makes me cautiously optimistic. Cheers, Jan. - -- Never write mail to <[email protected]>, you have been warned! - -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s+: a C+++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N+++ o++ K++ w--- O M V- PS PE Y++ PGP++ t-- 5 X R tv- b+ DI D+ G++ e++ h---- r+++ y++++ - ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFRrevo9u6Dud+QFyQRAqwAAJ91zvuwQQEoouIF5UtGewTgQNL3kwCg9G0C u/2/j1ZNod/46t6v73BammA= =5zzm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]

