Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 06:04:43PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> >> In this case, the main motivation is not disk space. Rather, it is >> bandwidth and, in particular, installation time (the latter being > > If the only difference of tetex-bin-nox is that the binaries depending > on X11 libraries are omitted this saves you perhaps 1% or 2% of a > tetex-bin + tetex-base installation.
The difference is that the buildd's won't need to download and install several xlibs just because they need to run pdflatex or latex;dvips during a package build. Not to mention that we plan to make tetex-base considerably smaller. >> probably more important on buildds) for packages that Build-Depend on >> tetex-bin, and the wish not to install xlibs on a server (that creates > > If someone needs the "convert" program he simply adds a build dependency > on imagemagick and look how much this pulls in. > > You can optimize for many different things, and I'd personally consider > the user-visible points mirror and CD space and the number of packages > in the archive more important than a few seconds speedup at build time. Other people have requested that, and I cannot judge who has more experience with buildds. On the other hand, I can very well understand the wish to have a server running that is able to produce PDF from *TeX source, but has no trace of X11 installed. >> PDF files) for tetex-bin as a Depends or for direct installation. > > The only real problem eith installing X11 libraries on a server is in > the case of limited space. And if the space is that limited (which is > quite rare), a distribution like Gentoo is a better choice. Others would advocate that there are good reasons not to have X on a server. I don't want to argue about that, I simply hear it. And it adds one more argument in favor of a -nox. > The question is for how many of these > 95% a few MB of disk space do > matter compared to the confusion because of having to choose from many > packages a subset sufficient for their usage. Avoiding confusion is a question of clever naming, Dependencies and a transition strategy, isn't it? > And if they get teTeX through a task, they will anyways most likely get > everything. There's no task: TeX any more. That is an important point to consider. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich Debian Developer