Hi Jesse,

    I have made that what you ask and returns me this:

        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  245030912 219750400 25280512        0 38678528 107286528
Swap: 534601728        0 534601728
MemTotal:       239288 kB
MemFree:         24688 kB
MemShared:           0 kB
Buffers:         37772 kB
Cached:         104772 kB
SwapCached:          0 kB
Active:         135992 kB
Inact_dirty:     22436 kB
Inact_clean:     40208 kB
Inact_target:    39724 kB
HighTotal:           0 kB
HighFree:            0 kB
LowTotal:       239288 kB
LowFree:         24688 kB
SwapTotal:      522072 kB
SwapFree:       522072 kB
Committed_AS:   127912 kB

    The list with process have gone bigger. I will try to do that what you
said.

Att,

Nataniel Klug


PS

USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.4  0.2  1340  484 ?        S    11:32   0:36 init
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:32   0:00 [keventd]
root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:32   0:00 [kapmd]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN  11:32   0:00
[ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:32   0:00 [kswapd]
root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:32   0:00 [bdflush]
root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:32   0:00 [kupdated]
root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root        12  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:00 [kjournald]
root        98  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:00 [kjournald]
root        99  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:00 [kjournald]
root       100  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:00 [kjournald]
root       101  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:00 [kjournald]
root       102  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:33   0:02 [kjournald]
root       340  0.0  0.2  1400  540 ?        S    11:33   0:01 syslogd -m 0
root       344  0.0  0.1  1340  432 ?        S    11:33   0:00 klogd -x
root       393  0.0  2.0  9932 5000 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/snmpd -s -l /dev/null -P /var/run/snmpd -a
named      402  0.0  1.3 11304 3292 ?        S    11:33   0:02 named -u
named
root       420  0.0  0.6  3276 1468 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sshd
root       434  0.0  0.3  2096  844 ?        S    11:33   0:00
xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root       446  0.0  0.5  4016 1204 ?        S    11:33   0:00 /bin/sh
/usr/bin/safe_mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/my.cnf
mysql      479  0.0  3.2 32400 7776 ?        S    11:33   0:01
/usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/my.cnf --basedir=/usr
root       559  0.0  0.5  3888 1244 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/libexec/postfix/master
postfix    568  0.0  0.5  4056 1412 ?        S    11:33   0:00 qmgr -l -t
fifo -u -c
postfix    582  0.0  0.5  3924 1224 ?        S    11:33   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail     583  0.0  0.3  2812  916 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix    584  0.0  0.5  3928 1228 ?        S    11:33   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
postfix    585  0.0  0.5  3928 1228 ?        S    11:33   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail     586  0.0  0.3  2804  908 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix    587  0.0  0.5  3928 1228 ?        S    11:33   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail     588  0.0  0.8  4384 2024 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix    589  0.0  0.5  3928 1224 ?        S    11:33   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail     590  0.0  0.3  2804  908 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix    591  0.0  0.5  3924 1224 ?        S    11:33   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail     592  0.0  0.3  2792  896 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED] pm@
dbmail     593  0.0  0.3  2804  908 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root       601  0.0  2.7 15476 6488 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/httpd
root       610  0.0  0.2  1524  652 ?        S    11:33   0:00 crond
root       623  0.0  0.2  3112  548 ?        S    11:33   0:00
rhnsd --interval 120
root       630  0.0  0.2  2172  684 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
root       635  0.0  1.9  6208 4648 ?        S    11:33   0:00 /usr/bin/perl
/usr/libexec/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/minis
root       639  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty1     S    11:33   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty1
root       640  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty2     S    11:33   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty2
root       641  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty3     S    11:33   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty3
root       642  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty4     S    11:33   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty4
root       643  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty5     S    11:33   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty5
root       644  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty6     S    11:33   0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty6
dbmail     647  0.0  0.4  3860 1152 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dbmail     648  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     649  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail     650  0.0  0.4  3848 1196 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     651  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail     652  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail     653  0.0  0.4  3864 1148 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail     654  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     655  0.0  0.4  3848 1196 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     656  0.0  0.4  3848 1196 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     657  0.0  0.4  3864 1148 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail     658  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     659  0.0  0.3  2216  776 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
dbmail     660  0.1  0.7  3048 1780 ?        S    11:33   0:10
/usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
dbmail     661  0.4  0.7  3100 1824 ?        S    11:33   0:31
/usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
dbmail     662  0.0  0.7  3044 1768 ?        S    11:33   0:03
/usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
dbmail     663  0.0  0.7  3052 1776 ?        S    11:33   0:06
/usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
dbmail     680  0.0  0.4  3860 1152 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dbmail     681  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    11:33   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
dbmail     778  0.0  0.4  3860 1152 ?        S    11:36   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dbmail     779  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    11:36   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
apache     969  0.0  4.2 18848 10240 ?       S    11:56   0:02
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache     973  0.0  3.8 17664 9308 ?        S    11:56   0:00
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache     978  0.0  4.0 18332 9776 ?        S    11:56   0:00
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache     995  0.0  0.4  3864 1156 ?        S    12:00   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
apache     996  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    12:00   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
apache    1023  0.0  0.4  3864 1156 ?        S    12:00   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
apache    1024  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    12:00   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
apache    1035  0.0  0.4  3860 1152 ?        S    12:01   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
apache    1036  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    12:01   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
apache    1344  0.1  4.5 19296 10904 ?       S    12:28   0:07
/usr/sbin/httpd
postfix   1479  0.0  0.5  3920 1220 ?        S    12:41   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail    1480  0.0  0.3  2792  896 ?        S    12:41   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED] prefeitur
dbmail    1482  0.0  0.4  3864 1148 ?        S    12:41   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail    1483  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    12:41   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
postfix   1623  0.0  0.5  3964 1312 ?        S    12:56   0:00 pickup -l -t
fifo -u -c
apache    1769  0.2  4.1 18212 9832 ?        S    13:14   0:05
/usr/sbin/httpd
postfix   1991  0.0  0.5  3928 1228 ?        S    13:30   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
dbmail    1992  0.0  0.3  2812  912 ?        S    13:30   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dbmail    1994  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    13:30   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail    1995  0.0  0.4  3852 1196 ?        S    13:30   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
apache    2010  0.1  3.9 17872 9448 ?        S    13:31   0:01
/usr/sbin/httpd
postfix   2080  0.0  0.5  3940 1272 ?        S    13:35   0:00 pipe -n
dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
apache    2103  0.1  3.7 17352 8936 ?        S    13:37   0:00
/usr/sbin/httpd
dbmail    2105  0.0  0.3  2804  904 ?        S    13:37   0:00
/usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dbmail    2107  0.0  0.4  3864 1148 ?        S    13:37   0:00
/usr/sbin/sendmail
dbmail    2108  0.0  0.4  3848 1192 ?        S    13:37   0:00
/usr/sbin/postdrop -r
root      2169  0.0  0.8  6704 2088 ?        S    13:42   0:00
/usr/sbin/sshd
root      2171  0.0  0.6  4200 1496 pts/0    S    13:42   0:00 -bash
postfix   2218  0.0  0.6  4196 1488 ?        S    13:43   0:00 smtpd -n
smtp -t inet -u -c
postfix   2219  0.0  0.5  4036 1420 ?        S    13:43   0:00 cleanup -z -t
unix -u -c
postfix   2220  0.0  0.6  4140 1512 ?        S    13:43   0:00
trivial-rewrite -n rewrite -t unix -u -c
postfix   2242  0.0  0.6  4160 1564 ?        S    13:45   0:00 local -t unix
postfix   2245  0.0  0.5  4076 1424 ?        S    13:45   0:00 smtp -t
unix -u -c
root      2254  0.0  0.2  2620  704 pts/0    R    13:45   0:00 ps aux


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Norell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Dbmail] Memory Problems


:
: Hello,
:
:   How much memory/swap space do you have?  (cat /proc/meminfo)
: If you don't need as many connection handlers (ie. you have a low
: volume mail sight), you could turn down NCHILDREN in dbmail.conf,
: which will get you less dbmail-pop3d processes.  Likewise you could
: turn down the number of simultaneous deliveries to dbmail in
: master.cf.  I don't see anything terribly abnormal from just the
: process list though.  It could be something as simple as not having
: any swap space on disk.
:
:
: ---- Original Message ----
: From: Nataniel Klug <[email protected]>
: To: <[email protected]>
: Subject: [Dbmail] Memory Problems
: Sent: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:06:07 -0300
:
: >     Hello,
: >
: >     I am having serius problems with an memory issue. Somethimes my
linux
: > box just get crazy and stops saying that there is no more memory to
continue
: > to work. When I list de process currently active in the box it returns
to me
: > the list bellow. Can someone help me to fix this problem in dbmail?
: >
: > Att,
: >
: > Nataniel Klug
: >
: > USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
: > root         1 15.4  0.2  1340  484 ?        S    11:14   0:36 init
: > root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:14   0:00 [keventd]
: > root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:14   0:00 [kapmd]
: > root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN  11:14   0:00
: > [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
: > root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:14   0:00 [kswapd]
: > root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:14   0:00 [bdflush]
: > root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:14   0:00
[kupdated]
: > root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[mdrecoveryd]
: > root        12  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[kjournald]
: > root        98  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[kjournald]
: > root        99  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[kjournald]
: > root       100  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[kjournald]
: > root       101  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[kjournald]
: > root       102  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   11:15   0:00
[kjournald]
: > root       340  0.0  0.2  1400  540 ?        S    11:15   0:00
syslogd -m 0
: > root       344  0.0  0.1  1336  428 ?        S    11:15   0:00 klogd -x
: > root       393  0.1  2.0  9860 4904 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/snmpd -s -l /dev/null -P /var/run/snmpd -a
: > named      402  0.1  1.2 11000 2988 ?        S    11:15   0:00 named -u
: > named
: > root       420  0.0  0.6  3280 1472 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sshd
: > root       434  0.0  0.3  2096  844 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
: > root       446  0.0  0.5  4012 1200 ?        S    11:15   0:00 /bin/sh
: > /usr/bin/safe_mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/my.cnf
: > mysql      479  0.0  2.5 30640 6040 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/my.cnf --basedir=/usr
: > root       559  0.0  0.5  3884 1240 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/libexec/postfix/master
: > postfix    567  0.0  0.5  3940 1252 ?        S    11:15   0:00
pickup -l -t
: > fifo -u -c
: > postfix    568  0.0  0.5  4028 1380 ?        S    11:15   0:00
qmgr -l -t
: > fifo -u -c
: > postfix    579  0.0  0.6  4140 1512 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > trivial-rewrite -n rewrite -t unix -u -c
: > postfix    582  0.0  0.5  3928 1228 ?        S    11:15   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > dbmail     584  0.0  0.3  2812  916 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > postfix    585  0.0  0.5  3924 1224 ?        S    11:15   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > postfix    586  0.0  0.5  3920 1220 ?        S    11:15   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > dbmail     587  0.0  0.3  2804  908 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > postfix    588  0.0  0.5  3924 1224 ?        S    11:15   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > dbmail     589  0.0  0.8  4384 2024 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > postfix    590  0.0  0.5  3924 1224 ?        S    11:15   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > dbmail     591  0.0  0.3  2808  912 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > postfix    592  0.0  0.5  3924 1224 ?        S    11:15   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > dbmail     593  0.0  0.3  2796  900 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED] pm@
: > dbmail     594  0.0  0.3  2808  912 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-smtp -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > root       602  0.0  2.7 15480 6492 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/httpd
: > root       611  0.0  0.2  1524  652 ?        S    11:15   0:00 crond
: > apache     615  0.0  3.3 16604 7968 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/httpd
: > apache     616  0.0  3.2 16364 7872 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/httpd
: > root       623  0.0  0.2  3116  548 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > rhnsd --interval 120
: > root       631  0.0  0.2  2168  680 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > root       636  0.0  1.9  6204 4640 ?        S    11:15   0:00
/usr/bin/perl
: > /usr/libexec/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/minis
: > root       640  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty1     S    11:15   0:00
: > /sbin/mingetty tty1
: > root       641  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty2     S    11:15   0:00
: > /sbin/mingetty tty2
: > root       642  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty3     S    11:15   0:00
: > /sbin/mingetty tty3
: > root       643  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty4     S    11:15   0:00
: > /sbin/mingetty tty4
: > root       644  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty5     S    11:15   0:00
: > /sbin/mingetty tty5
: > root       645  0.0  0.1  1320  408 tty6     S    11:15   0:00
: > /sbin/mingetty tty6
: > dbmail     648  0.0  0.4  3860 1152 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > dbmail     649  0.0  0.4  3848 1196 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/postdrop -r
: > dbmail     650  0.0  0.3  2212  772 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > dbmail     651  0.0  0.5  2520 1244 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > dbmail     652  0.0  0.5  2520 1244 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > dbmail     653  0.0  0.5  2520 1244 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > dbmail     654  0.0  0.5  2520 1244 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > dbmail     655  0.0  0.5  2520 1244 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/dbmail-pop3d
: > dbmail     661  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sendmail
: > dbmail     662  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/postdrop -r
: > dbmail     663  0.0  0.4  3856 1140 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sendmail
: > dbmail     664  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/postdrop -r
: > dbmail     665  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sendmail
: > dbmail     666  0.0  0.4  3860 1144 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sendmail
: > dbmail     667  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/postdrop -r
: > dbmail     668  0.0  0.5  3852 1200 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/postdrop -r
: > dbmail     669  0.0  0.4  3864 1148 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sendmail
: > dbmail     670  0.0  0.5  3856 1204 ?        S    11:15   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/postdrop -r
: > apache     673  0.0  3.1 16032 7532 ?        S    11:16   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/httpd
: > root       674  0.0  0.8  6708 2092 ?        S    11:16   0:00
: > /usr/sbin/sshd
: > root       679  0.0  0.6  4192 1476 pts/0    S    11:16   0:00 -bash
: > postfix    720  0.0  0.6  4200 1496 ?        S    11:16   0:00 smtpd -n
: > smtp -t inet -u -c
: > postfix    721  0.0  0.5  4032 1428 ?        S    11:16   0:00
cleanup -z -t
: > unix -u -c
: > postfix    722  0.0  0.5  3932 1272 ?        S    11:16   0:00 pipe -n
: > dbmail -t unix flags= user=dbmail dbmail argv=/usr/sbin
: > root       741  0.0  0.2  2604  688 pts/0    R    11:18   0:00 ps aux
: >
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