On 04/19/2013 12:33 PM, Аl Воgnеr wrote: > Am Fr, 19 Apr 2013 08:47:56 CEST schrieb Rob Z. Smith: > >> That said the 'perfectly clear' auto-optimization might be rather >> nice, at least if it anywhere near as good as the 'relight' in >> lightzone I used a while back it could be. I know that this isn't >> the direction of darktable - but it was still nice. Actually very >> nice, usually, on many photographs. The effect was a combination of >> obvious exposure/contrast fiddling but also tone mapping and >> shadow/highlight processing, now that lightzone have folded the >> source for this has been published - there again I'm sure it doesn't >> do anything dt can't but just has the auto optimisation bit. > I think too, that dt can do anything that "perfectly clear" of ASP > does, even better, but it is a question of time if you have a series of > hundreds of photos (as usual). > > If you want to optimize 1 very important photo and if it is worth to > spend 1-2 hours for 1 photo, than you will get the best result doing > everything manually. Ok, the time depends on the experience with the > image processing programm. I usually spent 1 minute for 1 photo with > ASP and "perfectly clear", but I am willing to spend more time, but not > 1 hour for 1 photo. > > These photos eg did _not_ get a _lot_ better with "pefectly clear" > http://www.bognerart.eu/index.php/2012-12_gnigler_krampuslauf_2012 > (available light) although I tried a lot with Aftershot, it was hard to > get the colors of the street light better. If I am experienced with dt, > I will try them again. > > But there are a lot of other series including from old photos which > have been improved a _lot_ by "perfectly clear" automatically, eg > http://www.bognerart.eu/index.php/2011-09_krypta_im_salzburger_dom > (available light) > http://www.bognerart.eu/index.php/010637_arabische_wueste (taken from a > plane) > > If you have hundreds of photos and you do not have a lot of time, since > the photos are needed ASAP from someone else (someone mentioned > wedding photography, but there are a lot of other situations, eg > sport, events, aso), you have to look for something which speeds the > process. Ok you don't get 100% with auto optimisation, but if the > automatic result is a lot better than the original shot looks, it is > worth to use it and rarely I got garbage with "Perfectly clear". > > So I would be very happy, if there is something that makes the workflow > faster, but of course this is my wish and the priorities have to be > set by the developers. I am not able to code this, but I am willing to > help if I can, eg with testing. > Once, again, (sorry, didn't follow the full discussion) but have you checked out the "clarity" preset of Equalizer? It removes homogeneous haze.
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