On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 08:37:02AM +0200, Ramon wrote: > On Saturday, 7 September 2013 at 05:35:04 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: > >I find that it's much more convincing for me to say "feature X is > >broken, here's the code change to make it better", than to say > >"feature X is broken, D sucks, you lazy bums better start working to > >fix X or else I'm leaving". It feels good to rant and get it off my > >chest, but it feels even better to have my changes merged and feature > >X to get fixed because of me. > > My intention was and is not ranting, nor saying D sucks, nor > asking other to do work nor threatening. And this can found > proven in what I wrote.
I did not intend to imply that you were ranting. I was only speaking generally. [...] > Neither is there a need to decide; the options are not mutually > exclusive. As a seasoned programmer that I take you to be you > certainly can agree that leaning back and looking, incl. looking > critically at was has been done so far not only is not harmful > but it actually is positive and often even necessary. And you > will quite certainly also degree that a non trivial project will > need some planning and management. What I said doesn't preclude that. All I'm saying is, *after* you stand back and look at what's there and find it unsatisfactory, you can write some code and then show it to others and say, "The current way we do X is unsatisfactory; here is my code to prove this (or better yet, here's my code to do it a better way)." > Unlike what you seem to think, my point isn't hitting on D > (actually that's obviously nonsensical as I wrote just yesterday > or today that meanwhile I'm happily humming along with D). I never implied that you were hitting on D. As you said yourself, that's nonsensical. > But neither can it be a healthy attitude to ignore less pleasant > things or events. We should ask what's behind it and what we can > make better. [...] Well yes, what I was saying was just to take it one step further: once you identify the problem, write the code to improve it and show that to others. I don't think that kind of proposal will be easily turned down. T -- The fact that anyone still uses AOL shows that even the presence of options doesn't stop some people from picking the pessimal one. - Mike Ellis
