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OB702 >> >> >> ---------- Пересылаемое сообщение ---------- >> From: Zenaan Harkness <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: cypherpunks <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 22:47:48 +1000 >> Subject: walking in another's shoes >> >> >> Assertions of fact which I presume are not in dispute except perhaps by >> schooled (and not educated) North Americans: >> >> - North America/ the USA, has NO righteous authority to be the >> "policeman of the world"! >> >> - The only authority the the USA has to be "the policeman of the world" >> is the predatorial right, the predatorial authority. >> >> - The United States of America government is ethically bankrupt. >> >> - The government of the USA has been co-opted by the North American (and >> western world oligarch controlled) Military Industrial Complex. >> >> - The hegemonic intention of the government of the USA and the "neo >> conservatives" or war mongers of "the West", is a predatorial >> manifestion of the desire for empire, the desire to control the world. >> >> >> The hegemonic USA must end. >> >> >> That said, here is what might be termed a human perspective of what an >> average Russian living in Russia or perhaps the Donbas today, might >> actually be experiencing, feeling and thinking, and why (historical >> memories etc) - a somewhat moving piece for those so inclined: >> >> --- >> "Why People Never Believe That War Is Coming – Until It Is Too Late" >> >> In Russian: http://www.apn-spb.ru/opinions/article23999.htm >> In English: >> http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/why-people-never-believe-war-coming-their-peril/ri15473 >> --- >> >> >> A thought: >> >> The "terrorists" in Syria, aka IS or ISIS or ISIL, go into town, >> villages and cities, forcing "conversion" or death upon those families >> who live there. >> >> The so called "terrorists" of eastern Ukraine in the Donbas/ >> Novorossia, are families fighting for their lives against the Ukraine >> state army who are coming to "subdue" them, to "encourage" them to >> accept the new Ukrainian coup government with its laws saying the >> Russian language is no longer official, and no longer allowed to be >> taught in their local schools, and many more abominations to "European >> values"! >> >> Oh, but it's all just "Russian aggression". >> >> FFS, wake up European nations! wake up North Americans! >> >> Absolutely the Ukrainian army must stop shooting and bombing its own >> people! >> >> Absolutely the eastern Ukrainian people have a right to defend >> themselves against "their own" army shooting at them, their own >> "president" Poroshenko "Donbas Children Will Sit in Cellars, “Ours” Will >> Go to School": >> >> >> Amazing Poroshenko Video: Keep Donbas Children "Holed Up" in ... >> http://russia-insider.com/en/node/1122 >> >> http://sputniknews.com/europe/20141114/1014748940.html >> >> https://dninews.com/article/doctor-liza-will-evacuate-13-children-moscow-donbass >> >> (well at least Poroshenko said it in a civilized setting - the Odessa >> Opera House.) >> >> Poroshenko: “we [in Ukraine] will have work they – [in the Donbas] >> won’t. We will have pensions – they won’t. We will care for our children >> and pensioners – they won’t. Our children will go to school, to >> kindergartens – their children will sit in cellars. They don’t know how >> to organize or do anything. This, ultimately, is how we will win this >> war.” >> >> https://southfront.org/its-like-a-textbook-for-torture-why-the-donbass-will-never-forgive-the-ukrainians/ >> (this article is too intense, I can't finish reading it) >> >> https://www.rt.com/news/163288-seven-children-wounded-unicef/ >> A boy holds a placard reading "Save Donbas children. Please stop ATO!" >> (anti-terrorists operation) in the southern Ukrainian city of Odessa on >> June 1, 2014 (AFP Photo) / AFP >> (This one's a bit easier to read.) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_situation_during_the_war_in_Donbass >> >> http://www.phillip-butler.com/when-will-we-the-people-stop-the-killing-in-donbass/ >> "Someone explain to me so I can understand. How is it that Russia is >> somehow negligent in influencing pro-Russian separatists in east >> Ukraine, when the Kiev junta’s forces are the ones shelling civilians >> daily? Does Germany’s Angela Merkel see something the world cannot? God >> only knows." >> >> >> All hail Ukraine! >> Home of the direct second and third generation Nazis! >> >> >> >> We, the collective "West" are an absolute disgrace on this planet!!!!! >> >> So YES if I were the USA president I would do better! The only real >> challenge is doing better as USA president, and stopping yourself from >> being killed for cleaning up the endless shit that is North American >> foreign policy! >> >> >> >> "The West", an absolute disgrace to humanity..
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