Hey Pravda started forwarding straight to the list ... ;) -- John
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OB702 > > > ---------- Пересылаемое сообщение ---------- > From: Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> > To: cypherpunks <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 22:47:48 +1000 > Subject: walking in another's shoes > > > Assertions of fact which I presume are not in dispute except perhaps by > schooled (and not educated) North Americans: > > - North America/ the USA, has NO righteous authority to be the > "policeman of the world"! > > - The only authority the the USA has to be "the policeman of the world" > is the predatorial right, the predatorial authority. > > - The United States of America government is ethically bankrupt. > > - The government of the USA has been co-opted by the North American (and > western world oligarch controlled) Military Industrial Complex. > > - The hegemonic intention of the government of the USA and the "neo > conservatives" or war mongers of "the West", is a predatorial > manifestion of the desire for empire, the desire to control the world. > > > The hegemonic USA must end. > > > That said, here is what might be termed a human perspective of what an > average Russian living in Russia or perhaps the Donbas today, might > actually be experiencing, feeling and thinking, and why (historical > memories etc) - a somewhat moving piece for those so inclined: > > --- > "Why People Never Believe That War Is Coming – Until It Is Too Late" > > In Russian: http://www.apn-spb.ru/opinions/article23999.htm > In English: > http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/why-people-never-believe-war-coming-their-peril/ri15473 > --- > > > A thought: > > The "terrorists" in Syria, aka IS or ISIS or ISIL, go into town, > villages and cities, forcing "conversion" or death upon those families > who live there. > > The so called "terrorists" of eastern Ukraine in the Donbas/ > Novorossia, are families fighting for their lives against the Ukraine > state army who are coming to "subdue" them, to "encourage" them to > accept the new Ukrainian coup government with its laws saying the > Russian language is no longer official, and no longer allowed to be > taught in their local schools, and many more abominations to "European > values"! > > Oh, but it's all just "Russian aggression". > > FFS, wake up European nations! wake up North Americans! > > Absolutely the Ukrainian army must stop shooting and bombing its own > people! > > Absolutely the eastern Ukrainian people have a right to defend > themselves against "their own" army shooting at them, their own > "president" Poroshenko "Donbas Children Will Sit in Cellars, “Ours” Will > Go to School": > > > Amazing Poroshenko Video: Keep Donbas Children "Holed Up" in ... > http://russia-insider.com/en/node/1122 > > http://sputniknews.com/europe/20141114/1014748940.html > > https://dninews.com/article/doctor-liza-will-evacuate-13-children-moscow-donbass > > (well at least Poroshenko said it in a civilized setting - the Odessa > Opera House.) > > Poroshenko: “we [in Ukraine] will have work they – [in the Donbas] > won’t. We will have pensions – they won’t. We will care for our children > and pensioners – they won’t. Our children will go to school, to > kindergartens – their children will sit in cellars. They don’t know how > to organize or do anything. This, ultimately, is how we will win this > war.” > > https://southfront.org/its-like-a-textbook-for-torture-why-the-donbass-will-never-forgive-the-ukrainians/ > (this article is too intense, I can't finish reading it) > > https://www.rt.com/news/163288-seven-children-wounded-unicef/ > A boy holds a placard reading "Save Donbas children. Please stop ATO!" > (anti-terrorists operation) in the southern Ukrainian city of Odessa on > June 1, 2014 (AFP Photo) / AFP > (This one's a bit easier to read.) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_situation_during_the_war_in_Donbass > > http://www.phillip-butler.com/when-will-we-the-people-stop-the-killing-in-donbass/ > "Someone explain to me so I can understand. How is it that Russia is > somehow negligent in influencing pro-Russian separatists in east > Ukraine, when the Kiev junta’s forces are the ones shelling civilians > daily? Does Germany’s Angela Merkel see something the world cannot? God > only knows." > > > All hail Ukraine! > Home of the direct second and third generation Nazis! > > > > We, the collective "West" are an absolute disgrace on this planet!!!!! > > So YES if I were the USA president I would do better! The only real > challenge is doing better as USA president, and stopping yourself from > being killed for cleaning up the endless shit that is North American > foreign policy! > > > > "The West", an absolute disgrace to humanity..
