Tom Vogt writes:
>Gil Hamilton wrote:
>> >yes, that is what I'm saying. see, by putting your money into a
> > >corporation, you also put it into trust in your government. the local
> > >legal system provides the ground rules for your transaction. it can
> > >change them. you do NOT have a natural right that says the rules may
>not
> > >change.
> > > The fact that businesses have to abide governmental regulation
>doesn't
> > establish them as purely artificial government-established entities.
>After
> > all, individuals too have to live with laws established by the regimes
>under
> > which they live. Would you argue that individuals have no natural
>rights,
> > only those given to them by the benevolent governmental entities that
> > "provide the ground rules" under which they're forced to live?
>
>no, I would definitely NOT argue that last point. however, corporations
>are established entirely WITHIN the framework of the legal system. it is
>the legal system that defines what exacatly a corporation is, for
>example that M$ is one, but the mafia is not. humans are not created
>inside the legal system.
So, to take this argument back to its roots: You apparently would argue that
the mafia, being a voluntary association NOT established entirely within the
framework of the legal system, retains its owners' natural rights to
collect, own and use information as it sees fit without regard to arbitrary
government edicts, while Microsoft, being entirely a creation of the State,
has no such right?
That is indeed a bizarre result.
>humans: natural entity
>group of humans: natural entity
>ganging-up-to-do-somethin: natural activity
>
>taxpayer: artificial entity
>corporation: artificial entity
>doing-a-takeover-via-stock-swapping: artificial activity
>
>is that a better explanation?
You still seem to be maintaining that, because the details of corporate
ownership and operation are subject to governmental regulation, therefore
the business that is represented by the corporation, and by extension its
owners, retains none of the owners' rights.
- GH
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