Tom Vogt wrote:
>Kevin Elliott wrote:
> > None of which apply to any organization other than government.  Not
> > sure what your point is.  Additionally businesses are run by people
> > and so many of the rights extended to people spill over to
> > businesses.

>the rights of businesses are completely artificial. a biz is an
>artifical entity that doesn't have any existence aside from paperwork
>(the property it owns is "real", but that doesn't make the business any
>more real than the existence of churches proves the existence of god).
>as such they have no "natural" and "inaliable" rights, but only those
>artificial rights granted to them by the local government. it just
>happens that they've managed to lobby most govs into giving them a whole
>bunch of rights.

The business is a representation of the owners, who are real people with 
actual rights.  A business is created with real capital (cash and other 
forms of value) advanced by the owners.  Anything the business "owns" -- 
property, information, etc. -- is actually owned by the owners of the 
business.  Hence, any right that inheres to the owners spills over (as Kevin 
put it) to the business.

There are many (particularly in governments) who don't like this and would 
try to deny it.  This is unsurprising and completely in line with their 
usual attempts to appropriate things of value created by others for their 
own purposes.

- GH
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