Hi Jeremy,

On 4/24/2025 1:43 PM, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin-apps wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, Mark Geisert via Cygwin-apps wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

On 4/24/2025 11:57 AM, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin-apps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025, Mark Geisert via Cygwin wrote:

A new version 1.4.17-4 of the cygutils packages with a corrected
'cygstart' is now making its way to the mirrors.

Can I ask why patches are made in the packaging rather than applied to
the cygwin-apps/cygutils git repository, given that this package is
"local" to Cygwin and therefore has no other "upstream"?  How would you
decide to make a 1.4.17-4 rather than a 1.4.18-1?

A fair question.

I think cygutils might have been the first package I ITA'd years ago.  I
wasn't yet up to speed on the whole package management framework.  I'm
(somewhat) better with the more recent adoptions I've made.  As time permits
all the packages I manage will be done identically and involve the cygwin-apps
git repository, the CI process, etc.

I personally would probably go to 1.4.18-1 when some major packaging change
was made.  I went from 1.4.16 to 1.4.17 when I took over from Chuck Wilson.

As for every maintainer here (and elsewhere), lack of time is an issue.

OK.  It made trying to update the package in MSYS2 more of a pain
(https://github.com/msys2/MSYS2-packages/pull/5353).  I went with
making your package revision into a 4th part of the version, so that
the MSYS2 package could maintain its own "pkgrel".

Apologies for the extra effort needed. I didn't foresee any issues with how I chose to number released packages. At some point (sometime this year) I'll switch to 3-part versions for cygutils.

You may be interested in the patch I just made to allow the package to
build against older runtimes (by skipping lssparse if SEEK_HOLE is not
defined).
[...]

Thanks very much! I've collected that and added it to the source tree for the next build at some future time.
Regards,

..mark

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