On 2014-04-30 02:14, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
On 2014-04-28, at 5:00 PM, James A. Donald <[email protected]> wrote:

Cannot outsource trust  Ann usually knows more about Bob than a distant 
authority does.

So should Ann verify the fingerprints of Amazon, and Paypal herself?

Ann should be logging on by zero knowledge password protocol, so that the entity that she logs on to proves it already knows the hash of her password.

ZKPP has to be in the browser chrome, not on the browser web page.

 How do you see that working assuming that Ann is an �ordinary user�?

To the ordinary user, should not behave any different, and should only look different in that the ZKPP login screen looks different from any possible web page in a way that is quite difficult to fake for any software that does not already have total control of the users machine.

Details of how to achieve unfakeable logon screen appearance depend on OS version. To make the ZKPP logon screen in Windows 7 different from any possible web page, have the browser web page vanish when the browser's genuine ZKPP logon screen is up. Analogous but different gimmicks are feasible in other operating systems and system versions.

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