M> If you have effective recourse, then by that definition trust is not
M> required.

J> Exactly.
J> 
J> Trust is what is used when you don't have a security control to place.


Well, if nothing else, we now have proof by demonstration
that the greater "we" do not agree on the meaning of trust
hence, one might conclude, group-rating the trustworthiness
of various options should now pause.

--dan

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