Dear George,

I kindly ask you to read carefully what I am proposing for CRMdig. I argue that I provide new evidence on issue 547.

I had carefully studied the text for issue 547, and propose a viable alternative to your arguments (which we had shared then) already in harmony with CRMsci for D9 and D11. Therefore I propose not to delete concepts we will possibly need to reintroduce, and are not backwards compatible.

Second, I have completed the Area concepts with the missing parts from the applied software. It is a generic concept in line with METS, a very important standard.

Finally, the fact that the Annotation model appears to be competitive with another annotation model does not make it obsolete per se. It makes use of Named Graph logic, which is very elegant and compact. Van der Soempel personally told me that they made the Annotation Model as it is because Named Graphs were not mature at that time.

Note that I am editor of CRMdig and domain expert. I do not agree with this judgement: "Annotation is an important area of digital humanities work. This modeling is very early modelling and misses out on many efforts since then. It is not informed by recent work and it is not a profound ontological contribution anyhow. "

If we drop a requirement for these deletions, we can directly review the harmonization with the other models. I argue that my proposals are already mature enough.

Please let us review this together.

Kind regards,

Martin

On 9/6/2025 12:41 PM, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
Dear all,

Here is the homework for closing out issue 547 which has been undertaken by the working group George, Steve, Pavlos.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u3haQXJit9speJaTyE7t9bSwLi8jlnPwmioVhM0zDz8/edit?tab=t.0

Work on CRMdig has been paused to allow extensive discussion of CRMsci and inf. Now that that is over we would like to bring CRMdig into harmonization with 7.1.3 BEFORE any other new modelling work is proposed on the standard, so that we have a set of usable extensions (official with serialization).

In the session we can then broach new modelling proposals which can be considered for the next official release.

We will post the latest version of the documentation before the meeting reflecting this work. This is essentially a cleaning exercise BEFORE doing new modelling ideas and exercises so that there is a functional official version that is in line with our present base model, 7.1.3.

Best,

George


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