Thanks for your support.
You have good ideas, but some of them won't fly.

We NEED rpm to keep things uniform.  Easy to upgrade, easy to replace,
(not-so)easy to build, and the same for every package.  Seriously.  If
there is ANYTHING that linux needs to survive it's a bit of
standardization (even WITHIN each distro).  Having two package systems
could be a nightmare.

Also, you CAN just download ISO1 and do the rest via ftp/http.  I've
done it many times.  You can even just download one floppy and install
everything by ftp!  (Thanks to rpm...)

It would be nice to have a "semi-network" install option on CD1 though. 
You boot CD1, pick some sort of hybrid install with VERY few options and
menus and such.  This installs basesystem, X, a window manager, and the
"draks" and lets you select a mirror, and CONFIGURES the mirror in urpmi
BEFORE rebooting.  Then you reboot and install the rest from you new
super-speedy Mandrake system.

Great idea.

Austin

On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 21:39, allen wrote:
> 
> I would like to 2nd this concept.
> 
> 
> Also I would like to add a little something for some day in the future, 
> maybe...
> 
> Follow the thought, it would be too hard to describe otherwise...
> 
> 1.  Say CD1 is a minimal installer and a file system, rudimentary, ready to 
> go.  ( And yes, I've actually created such a thing on contract for a 
> company in the Northwest so I know this pretty well... )
> 
> 2.  You do the "install" and partition, and format, and BLLLLLAAAAMMMM !
> 
>      Your whole entire basic file system is copied over ready to go.
> 
> 3.  Reboot.
> 
> 4.  Now add the things you want.
> 
> How hard is that ?  
> 
> I don't want to start a flame thing, but compared to this sort of capability, 
> initially, I do not like rpm's.
> 
> This sort of "install" is a LOT faster, a LOT LOT faster.
> 
> Heck, you could even fit a few more architecture specific base file systems
> on there...  Maybe just X needs to "go on" the rpm way initially...
> 
> Is the rpms thing really so necessary all the way "from the beginning" ?
> 
> ( Humble and sincere question )
> 
> The other thing is that perhaps you really don't need to download a whole
> bunch of ISO's.  Maybe just part of one.  The rest can install itself as 
> needed over the net...  uprmi.addmedia (somewhere)  urpmi.finishinstalling ;)
> 
> ?
> 
> -AEF
> 
> 
> On Monday 12 August 2002 08:18 pm, Austin Acton wrote:
> 
> <snips>
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > I only have one request to add to v9.0 in the installer. I want an
> > "Install All" button - ala Redhat. Disks are cheap. The time required to
> > get the system fully operational isn't. Having an install all capability
> > would be a real productivity enhancer for one-off configurations.
> >
> > It would be even nicer if all extra services beyond those required to
> > normally operate the system are OFF by default when installed. That way,
> > you don't soak up memory and add more security holes. (At least until
> > the software is configured
> 


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