Many Faces learns. I think most everyone follows the policy. As a developer, I want each version of my program to have a separate name so I can keep track of which results go with which version.
David > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Williams > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CGOS 19x19 starting trating > > It takes the burden of updating the program login name away from the > programmer, which should result in the policy being followed more > closely. It doesn't take away flexablility as long as the client code > is changed in such away that is gracefully degrades to the current > functionallity when the new field (e.g. "BaseLoginName") is not > present. > > I don't think there are any learning programs, not that that matters > is you gracefully degrade to current functionallity. > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Don Dailey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Michael Williams > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Good points, but the suggestion wasn't meant as a method of > >> enforcement on the policy, but instead a feature of convenience to > >> make it easier to follow the policy. If the ratings converge fast, > >> there is little reason to bypass the policy. > > > > But it doesn't accomplish much and takes away a little flexibility. A > > learning program for instance would not be solved by this for instance so > it > > is not really particularly effective. > > Don > > > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Don Dailey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Michael Williams > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Yeah, but don't design the system for a case that isn't being done. > >> >> > >> >> You could even make this automatic in the CGOS client by specifying a > >> >> base name in the config file and having the client append a hash of > >> >> the executable. > >> >> > >> > > >> > It's funny you say that, I once considered doing exactly that. I > >> > decided > >> > not to however as I think it's messy. it would be trivial to hack the > >> > script to send the same checksum each time and it's not always going to > >> > work > >> > anyway - if your binary is loaded via a shell script for instance you > >> > would > >> > be checksumming the script, not the actual binary. If your program > >> > is > >> > called with different command line arguments (which some of mine did) > >> > you > >> > essentially change the program without changing the binary. I > >> > decided > >> > it was too ambiguous and difficult to do right. > >> > Since it is easily circumvented it seems like the best way is an > >> > advisory > >> > system anyway. > >> > Don > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Don Dailey <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Michael Williams > >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Don, as for the program changing strength, I thought the > recommended > >> >> >> system was to create a new CGOS name when you change something in > >> >> >> your > >> >> >> program? I know it can't be enforeced, but just reminding people > to > >> >> >> try to stick to that policy is probably enough. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes, that is how it should be done. > >> >> > The only issue here is if someone creates a program designed to > learn > >> >> > as > >> >> > it > >> >> > plays. If we do it bayes-like then a workaround would be to > >> >> > periodically > >> >> > rename the program. > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Hideki Kato > >> >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > http://cgos.boardspace.net/19x19/bayes.html > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Hideki > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > terry mcintyre: <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> >>Is there a URL for the 19x19 bayeselo table? > >> >> >> >> Terry McIntyre <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Unix/Linux Systems Administration > >> >> >> >>Taking time to do it right saves having to do it twice. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>---- inline file > >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ > >> >> >> >>Computer-go mailing list > >> >> >> >>[email protected] > >> >> >> >>http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Hideki Kato <mailto:[email protected]> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> > Computer-go mailing list > >> >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> >> > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Computer-go mailing list > >> >> >> [email protected] > >> >> >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Computer-go mailing list > >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Computer-go mailing list > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Computer-go mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Computer-go mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
