On 9/8/2014 1:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
I would be entirely happy if it was recommended that R128 gain values were
stored in their tags and not normally in the output gain field, but I've felt
resistance to that idea before.  The spec itself advised the opposite and
explained the reason: everyone will apply the output gain, not everyone will
apply the tag gain.

Do we agree about this?  Might be best to wait for some other comments.

--ian

It seems to me that the gain values are intended for two different audiences. The output gain should be something set by the audio producer, whereas the R128 gains are something usually set by the audio consumers (to normalize all the songs in a playlist to be the same loudness, for example). Naturally the output gain must be mandatory for a player, but I would vote that it makes sense that the R128 gains are optional, since only the consumer would really know why they are applying the R128 gains to begin with (and if it's a matter of an audio producer trying to get the same loudness for all the songs in his "album", and he can't fix the source material and re-encode it, then he should be using the output gain for this purpose). My two cents.

John Ridges


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