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----- Original Message -----

> From: "Marek Libra" <[email protected]>
> To: "Development discussion for the Cockpit Project"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:21:50 PM
> Subject: Re: idea/rfc: device screen in cockpit

> Hi,

> thanks for your comments!

> I've updated the Feature wiki page.
> The sketch of 'PCI-By Class view' is attached. It needs design, it's purpose
> is to better demonstrate this part of the UI.

> Looking forward to hear you comments.

> Marek

> ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Jeremy Eder" <[email protected]>
> 
> > To: "Development discussion for the Cockpit Project"
> > <[email protected]>
> 
> > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 1:46:15 PM
> 
> > Subject: Re: idea/rfc: device screen in cockpit
> 

> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Andreas Nilsson < [email protected] >
> > wrote:
> 

> > > On 2016-09-09 10:47, Marek Libra wrote:
> > 
> 

> > > > Hi,
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > to follow-up this idea, I've created new Wiki page:
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/wiki/Feature:-Hardware-Devices
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > POC will follow.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > Hi!
> > 
> 
> > > This is a great start!
> > 
> 

> > > So the goal of the feature is to provide a list of machine devices, but
> > > that
> > > sounds more like the end result on the screen rather than the user goal.
> > 
> 

> > ​The user goal at least from my POV would be to associate device(s)​ with a
> > specific container (i.e. expose the --device flag that docker already
> > provides). This is happening in kubernetes as well:
> > https://github.com/kubernetes/features/issues/76
> 

> > > I'm missing some bits about what kind of workflows this enables, and for
> > > who.
> > 
> 

> > > What are some situations where you need to know this information? Is it
> > > for
> > > troubleshooting, for figuring out what replacement hardware to buy? etc.
> > > Why
> > > does the user want to detatch/reattach a particular device?
> > 
> 

> > ​I have a container with special requirements -- the application that will
> > run needs (exclusive) access to some specialized hardware such as a
> > dedicated NIC, HBA, SR-IOV VF, co-processor, GPU, etc.
> 

> > For example, to run a high performance database, often NUMA topology comes
> > into play. When the PCI controller was moved inside the CPUs a few years
> > ago, it means that PCI slots are associated with individual processor
> > sockets. We've used this tool to visualize:
> > https://www.open-mpi.org/projects/hwloc/
> 

> > To run a trading platform application, I need to dedicate an FPGA to an
> > application, and I need to know it's NUMA properties.
> 

> > Some representation of which processor socket a PCI slot/device is attached
> > to would be extremely useful as well in Cockpit (see the picture in the
> > link
> > above).
> 
> > ​​
> 
> > In addition to the data listed in the Data Example, another feature that
> > would be extremely useful is to know what module the device uses, and what
> > the loaded module options are. Being able to actually manipulate those
> > module options and persist that would be really, really cool.​ And for
> > NICs,
> > output of ethtool -i eth0 and ethtool eth0, as well as IRQ information
> > including any pinning (see /proc/irq/NNN/smp_affinity_list).
> 

> > > Some paragraphs about that would be awesome. I usually use made up
> > > sysadmin
> > > characters, and try to imagine their work scenarios.
> > 
> 
> > > If you need some inspiration, Aaron Weitekamp wrote some great user
> > > stories,
> > > their motivations and scenarios for the registry image signatures that
> > > really helped him, myself and Stef figure out some of the hard wrinkles
> > > of
> > > the problem.
> > 
> 
> > > https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/wiki/Feature:-Visualize-registry-image-signatures
> > 
> 
> > > It doesn't need to be long like his examples, just a paragraph or two is
> > > probably enough.
> > 
> 

> > > The second part is about the design. Right now it's a bit hard to imagine
> > > how
> > > it would look, just based on the text.
> > 
> 
> > > Would it be possible to draw up a rough sketch of how it would look on
> > > the
> > > screen?
> > 
> 

> > > Again, thanks for getting this started. Looking forward to the end
> > > result!
> > 
> 
> > > - Andreas
> > 
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