At 10:14 AM 11/6/2002 +0000, Nuno Lopes wrote:
Joseph wrote:Actually, given the many types of writing and writers the "extent" of agreement will fall along a continuum. Basically, most writers are going to want some measure of visual control. The degree and scope are things that are, in essence, a compromise between the competing demands placed on content.
> Integrating seamlessly with the creative process
> is one of the most important factors for the
> advancement of CMS's.
Mattias wrote:
> Well, I agree to what your saying to a certain
> extent. It's important that authors get feedback
> on how their material will be presented. It's
> pretty boring to only stare at a xml document
> while writing. However, that is easily achieved
> by letting them preview their material using one
> or several stylesheets.
I believe this in this case one as to simply agree or disagree with Joseph regarding a previous comment and simply admit it. There is no some extent.
Usually, this amounts to making a limited set of styles available to authors and giving them an _example_ rendering of those styles whilst they write. The actual rendering will vary by website, medium, etc. The set of styles usually amounts to the following HTML tags, or equivalent:
<H1> ... <H6>
<P>
<B>
<I>
<UL>, <OL>, <LI>
<DL>, <DT>, <DD>
<DIV>, <SPAN>
The "extent" usually boils down to adding or removing items from this list! Note, this usually holds true even within more structured content. E.g. if instead of <DIV> and <SPAN>, a proposal document used XML elements like <SUMMARY>, <MOTIVATION>, <BENEFITS>, <COSTS>, <SCHEDULE>, <RESOURCES>, etc. The text within most of these sections would still use the above HTML subset.
Clearly, _most_ writers like to give *emphasis* and some degree of NUANCE to their writing. Sometimes, this can only be achieved through formatting. Why else would we have all those smiley faces on the net? :-)Mattias wrote: > Isn't that missing the point? Authors shouldn't care > less about how their content is *rendered*, they > should care about how their content is structured and > what it means :) I think getting from the "how it > looks" mindset to the "what it means" is one of the > most important factors of the advancements of CMS's
take it easy,
Charles
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