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1. Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Lionel Laratte)
2. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Kamatchi, Rajan)
3. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Edward Shenderovich)
4. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Lionel Laratte)
5. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (=?us-ascii?Q?Andre_Milton?=)
6. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Lionel Laratte)
7. Re: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (joseph martins)
8. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Richard Bacon)
9. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Max Dunn)
10. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Lionel Laratte)
11. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Lionel Laratte)
12. RE: Interwoven Teamsite vs. (Michael Bronder)
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:44:08 -0400
From: Lionel Laratte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
All,
I am currently evaluating Interwoven and e-Prise for our department's
content management needs. Considering the fact that money is no object,
our department has intended users that range from barely able to send an
e-mail to those with FrontPage/Dreamweaver experience and requirements
include some reporting (test scores, etc.)...what would you recommend?
TIA.
Lionel Laratte
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From: "Kamatchi, Rajan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:56:50 -0400
Hi All,
I am a CMS consultant(Interwoven specialist), I am looking for job openings
all over US. Guys please help me with pointers that you might be aware of.
Thanks a lot in advance folks.
Rajan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lionel Laratte [mailto:myth47@;comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
All,
I am currently evaluating Interwoven and e-Prise for our department's
content management needs. Considering the fact that money is no object,
our department has intended users that range from barely able to send an
e-mail to those with FrontPage/Dreamweaver experience and requirements
include some reporting (test scores, etc.)...what would you recommend?
TIA.
Lionel Laratte
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Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:15:14 -0400
From: "Edward Shenderovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lionel,
I'd say that depends on the size of your department and usage needs. =
Interwoven will allow you to do more, but the implementation cycle will =
be longer and some of the functionality may be unnecessary. Also, do =
you plan on using it for a departmental intranet or externally? How =
often do you expect templates to change, how often is content submitted?
All of those can play into your decision.
DISCLAIMER: I work for Quantum Art, a CMS software company.
Sincerely,
Edward Shenderovich
EVP, Strategic Development
Quantum Art/Ixtens
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:40:57 -0400
From: Lionel Laratte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
To: 'Edward Shenderovich' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in
my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is
to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again;
it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it
affords scalability.
Lionel
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On Behalf Of Edward Shenderovich
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Lionel,
I'd say that depends on the size of your department and usage needs.
Interwoven will allow you to do more, but the implementation cycle will
be longer and some of the functionality may be unnecessary. Also, do
you plan on using it for a departmental intranet or externally? How
often do you expect templates to change, how often is content submitted?
All of those can play into your decision.
DISCLAIMER: I work for Quantum Art, a CMS software company.
Sincerely,
Edward Shenderovich
EVP, Strategic Development
Quantum Art/Ixtens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.quantumart.com
http://www.ixtens.com
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From: =?us-ascii?Q?Andre_Milton?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Edward Shenderovich'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:24:17 -0400
Lionel,
Have you looked at LMS/LCMS type solutions? Some solutions are better
catered to your needs as they address features like testing, reporting,
learning paths, and conform to standards being set in the field (albeit
standards that are still in their infancy). Some vendors on this list
either provide extensions to their current CMS solution for eLearning or
offer systems specific to your needs.
Scalability is also fast becoming a standard requirement in our field
(although some will disagree with me ;) ).
I think the big issue for you, as Edward had mentionned, is how much custom
development do you really need (or can risk). My philosophy is that it's
best to customize than build.
Interwoven probably has something for you although I can't seem to find it:
http://www.interwoven.com/solutions/industry/education.html Anyone know of
eLearning projects built with Interwoven? I don't see online courses at
med.upenn.edu .
a.
Andre Milton
www.mlore.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On
Behalf Of Lionel Laratte
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:41 PM
To: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in
my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is
to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again;
it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it
affords scalability.
Lionel
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:43:28 -0400
From: Lionel Laratte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
To: 'Andre Milton' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks but, yes, we did look into those and some would have worked with
some customization. However, our marching orders are to "use what we
already have in-house". Actually, I like the challenge and I agree with
management on this. I am leaning toward Interwoven.
Lionel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]
On Behalf Of Andre Milton
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Lionel,
Have you looked at LMS/LCMS type solutions? Some solutions are
better
catered to your needs as they address features like testing, reporting,
learning paths, and conform to standards being set in the field (albeit
standards that are still in their infancy). Some vendors on this list
either provide extensions to their current CMS solution for eLearning or
offer systems specific to your needs.
Scalability is also fast becoming a standard requirement in our
field
(although some will disagree with me ;) ).
I think the big issue for you, as Edward had mentionned, is how
much custom
development do you really need (or can risk). My philosophy is that
it's
best to customize than build.
Interwoven probably has something for you although I can't seem
to find it:
http://www.interwoven.com/solutions/industry/education.html Anyone know
of
eLearning projects built with Interwoven? I don't see online courses at
med.upenn.edu .
a.
Andre Milton
www.mlore.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On
Behalf Of Lionel Laratte
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:41 PM
To: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in
my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is
to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again;
it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it
affords scalability.
Lionel
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Message: 7
From: "joseph martins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:02:12 -0400
Lionel based on your two brief emails it is impossible to make a
recommendation.
Consider the following:
I am currently evaluating the real estate market in Boston and San
Francisco. Money is no object. I'm not very handy with tools but my wife
is a regular Ms. Fix-it. We have kids and animals. I like the color blue
and it needs a garbage disposal....what would you recommend?
Understand my point? You need to be much more specific [re your
requirements] if you're interested in receiving something more than a
half-baked recommendation. Do you have any documentation that would provide
us [this cms-list] with more information?
And, take my advice, don't tell folks that money is no object. Even if
your company has deep pockets, a modest self-imposed budget [combined with
realistic requirements and expectations] will help it to control the project
scope and timetable. An open-ended budget [and vague requirements] is an
invitation for failure.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lionel Laratte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Edward Shenderovich'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again; it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it affords scalability.Lionel
--__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Richard Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Andre Milton'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Edward Shenderovich'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:11:12 -0400 Hmmm, "...money is no object." That's an interesting negotiating ploy. All kidding aside Lionel, given the information you have supplied below you really can't expect much in the way of valuable feedback. You have mentioned twice that you are leaning toward Interwoven. The decision is yours to make and yours alone (based on your full requirements). If you are simply trying to justify your decision it is my humble opinion that the cms-list is the wrong place. Folks here will tell you what they think, not what you want to hear. You might want to try iwov-list. You'll have much better luck there. Best regards, -Rich Richard F. Bacon II WebVision Global Consulting WWW: http://www.wvglobal.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-921-1197 Mobile: 401-965-1055 Fax: 401-921-1197 "WebVision Global Consulting - Cutting Edge Technology. Old Fashioned Service." -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:43 PM To: 'Andre Milton' Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Thanks but, yes, we did look into those and some would have worked with some customization. However, our marching orders are to "use what we already have in-house". Actually, I like the challenge and I agree with management on this. I am leaning toward Interwoven. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Andre Milton Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Lionel, Have you looked at LMS/LCMS type solutions? Some solutions are better catered to your needs as they address features like testing, reporting, learning paths, and conform to standards being set in the field (albeit standards that are still in their infancy). Some vendors on this list either provide extensions to their current CMS solution for eLearning or offer systems specific to your needs. Scalability is also fast becoming a standard requirement in our field (although some will disagree with me ;) ). I think the big issue for you, as Edward had mentionned, is how much custom development do you really need (or can risk). My philosophy is that it's best to customize than build. Interwoven probably has something for you although I can't seem to find it: http://www.interwoven.com/solutions/industry/education.html Anyone know of eLearning projects built with Interwoven? I don't see online courses at med.upenn.edu . a. Andre Milton www.mlore.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:41 PM To: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again; it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it affords scalability. Lionel -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Max Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:27:52 -0700
I am currently evaluating the real estate market in Boston and San Francisco. Money is no object. I'm not very handy with tools but my wife is a regular Ms. Fix-it. We have kids and animals. I like the color blue and it needs a garbage disposal....what would you recommend?
Great analogy, but I think you could even go further. "Interwoven is top on our list." = "We've almost settled on 100 California St." I have concerns about Interwoven based on what I've seen of TeamXML. I heard from several people involved in Interwoven implementations that the XML support is either not there yet or difficult to get used to: it seems as if adding an XML "module" to a fundamentally non-XML-based application can pose challenges. But I have never used it myself, just attended some demos and researched it: I don't know how much of that perception is due to Interwoven and how much is just end users familiar with a "Web site" perspective. Personally, I would use a system that had more of an XML core (or build from scratch on top of an XML database such as Ixiasoft TEXTML), but that's probably biased, I'm sure some do just fine with Interwoven: I would think though that one thing to determine is your preferred method of structuring your documents: if XML is critical, probably look at some alternatives to Interwoven. Think of the possibilities for educational material - the multichannel publishing requirements are probably hard to predict: what will interactive media look like 5 years from now? The better your information is structured, the more multichannel publishing will be possible with future media: if you build around "a circa 2000 HTML web site" paradigm you'll do well only as long as that remains a popular form of communication. It can be a mistake to work too closely to a specific output format (print or Web), convenient as it is to do so. Max --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:32:48 -0400 From: Lionel Laratte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. To: 'Richard Bacon' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Andre Milton' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK...tough crowd. I guess this wasn't the place for flippancy. Seriously, though, here is the situation: 1. We have enterprise licenses for both products. Other business areas are using them. We can use either. (Therefore, funding is not an issue; "money is no object".) 2. We have users that range from no technical expertise to 2-3 years' experience with WYSIWYG html authoring packages. 3. The goal is to create a knowledge management/education portal. 4. Expected lifetime of a template: 2 years 5. The goals: reduce time to publish, provide e-mail notification of updated materials, manage workflow, provide the means for even the least technical of our department to create content. 6. XML and the capability for future Web services integration is a must. 7. Database integration with Oracle is also a must. We plan on creating customizable individual home pages. Finally, besides static documents, we also create interactive online courses, most of which use JavaScript. Ideally, this product would also integrate with existing HTML authoring tools and be able to manage legacy Web applications and documents created through them. For the record, I haven't made up my mind and am not trying to justify my decision. From the information I've read, it seems that the product I am leaning toward provides the most flexibility while providing ease of use for developers and a robust back-end for XML and future technological developments. The reason I signed on to this list serve was to get some input from professionals in the field that are associated with neither my company nor the vendors. In any case, thanks for the advice. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: Richard Bacon [mailto:rbacon@;wvglobal.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andre Milton' Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Hmmm, "...money is no object." That's an interesting negotiating ploy. All kidding aside Lionel, given the information you have supplied below you really can't expect much in the way of valuable feedback. You have mentioned twice that you are leaning toward Interwoven. The decision is yours to make and yours alone (based on your full requirements). If you are simply trying to justify your decision it is my humble opinion that the cms-list is the wrong place. Folks here will tell you what they think, not what you want to hear. You might want to try iwov-list. You'll have much better luck there. Best regards, -Rich Richard F. Bacon II WebVision Global Consulting WWW: http://www.wvglobal.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-921-1197 Mobile: 401-965-1055 Fax: 401-921-1197 "WebVision Global Consulting - Cutting Edge Technology. Old Fashioned Service." -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:43 PM To: 'Andre Milton' Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Thanks but, yes, we did look into those and some would have worked with some customization. However, our marching orders are to "use what we already have in-house". Actually, I like the challenge and I agree with management on this. I am leaning toward Interwoven. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Andre Milton Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Lionel, Have you looked at LMS/LCMS type solutions? Some solutions are better catered to your needs as they address features like testing, reporting, learning paths, and conform to standards being set in the field (albeit standards that are still in their infancy). Some vendors on this list either provide extensions to their current CMS solution for eLearning or offer systems specific to your needs. Scalability is also fast becoming a standard requirement in our field (although some will disagree with me ;) ). I think the big issue for you, as Edward had mentionned, is how much custom development do you really need (or can risk). My philosophy is that it's best to customize than build. Interwoven probably has something for you although I can't seem to find it: http://www.interwoven.com/solutions/industry/education.html Anyone know of eLearning projects built with Interwoven? I don't see online courses at med.upenn.edu . a. Andre Milton www.mlore.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:41 PM To: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again; it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it affords scalability. Lionel -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:39:26 -0400 From: Lionel Laratte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. To: 'Max Dunn' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your comments, Max. I'll look more closely into its XML capabilities. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Max Dunn Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs.
I am currently evaluating the real estate market in Boston and San Francisco. Money is no object. I'm not very handy with tools but my wife is a regular Ms. Fix-it. We have kids and animals. I like the color blue and it needs a garbage disposal....what would you recommend?
Great analogy, but I think you could even go further. "Interwoven is top on our list." = "We've almost settled on 100 California St." I have concerns about Interwoven based on what I've seen of TeamXML. I heard from several people involved in Interwoven implementations that the XML support is either not there yet or difficult to get used to: it seems as if adding an XML "module" to a fundamentally non-XML-based application can pose challenges. But I have never used it myself, just attended some demos and researched it: I don't know how much of that perception is due to Interwoven and how much is just end users familiar with a "Web site" perspective. Personally, I would use a system that had more of an XML core (or build from scratch on top of an XML database such as Ixiasoft TEXTML), but that's probably biased, I'm sure some do just fine with Interwoven: I would think though that one thing to determine is your preferred method of structuring your documents: if XML is critical, probably look at some alternatives to Interwoven. Think of the possibilities for educational material - the multichannel publishing requirements are probably hard to predict: what will interactive media look like 5 years from now? The better your information is structured, the more multichannel publishing will be possible with future media: if you build around "a circa 2000 HTML web site" paradigm you'll do well only as long as that remains a popular form of communication. It can be a mistake to work too closely to a specific output format (print or Web), convenient as it is to do so. Max -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. --__--__-- Message: 12 Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Michael Bronder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:12:16 -0400 My understanding is that Interwoven is fully web-service enabled. Other CM companies are generally saying, "yeah, we'll get there one of these days" Not very familiar with e-Prise. mb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:33 PM To: 'Richard Bacon'; 'Andre Milton' Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. OK...tough crowd. I guess this wasn't the place for flippancy. Seriously, though, here is the situation: 1. We have enterprise licenses for both products. Other business areas are using them. We can use either. (Therefore, funding is not an issue; "money is no object".) 2. We have users that range from no technical expertise to 2-3 years' experience with WYSIWYG html authoring packages. 3. The goal is to create a knowledge management/education portal. 4. Expected lifetime of a template: 2 years 5. The goals: reduce time to publish, provide e-mail notification of updated materials, manage workflow, provide the means for even the least technical of our department to create content. 6. XML and the capability for future Web services integration is a must. 7. Database integration with Oracle is also a must. We plan on creating customizable individual home pages. Finally, besides static documents, we also create interactive online courses, most of which use JavaScript. Ideally, this product would also integrate with existing HTML authoring tools and be able to manage legacy Web applications and documents created through them. For the record, I haven't made up my mind and am not trying to justify my decision. From the information I've read, it seems that the product I am leaning toward provides the most flexibility while providing ease of use for developers and a robust back-end for XML and future technological developments. The reason I signed on to this list serve was to get some input from professionals in the field that are associated with neither my company nor the vendors. In any case, thanks for the advice. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: Richard Bacon [mailto:rbacon@;wvglobal.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andre Milton' Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Hmmm, "...money is no object." That's an interesting negotiating ploy. All kidding aside Lionel, given the information you have supplied below you really can't expect much in the way of valuable feedback. You have mentioned twice that you are leaning toward Interwoven. The decision is yours to make and yours alone (based on your full requirements). If you are simply trying to justify your decision it is my humble opinion that the cms-list is the wrong place. Folks here will tell you what they think, not what you want to hear. You might want to try iwov-list. You'll have much better luck there. Best regards, -Rich Richard F. Bacon II WebVision Global Consulting WWW: http://www.wvglobal.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-921-1197 Mobile: 401-965-1055 Fax: 401-921-1197 "WebVision Global Consulting - Cutting Edge Technology. Old Fashioned Service." -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:43 PM To: 'Andre Milton' Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Thanks but, yes, we did look into those and some would have worked with some customization. However, our marching orders are to "use what we already have in-house". Actually, I like the challenge and I agree with management on this. I am leaning toward Interwoven. Lionel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org] On Behalf Of Andre Milton Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Lionel, Have you looked at LMS/LCMS type solutions? Some solutions are better catered to your needs as they address features like testing, reporting, learning paths, and conform to standards being set in the field (albeit standards that are still in their infancy). Some vendors on this list either provide extensions to their current CMS solution for eLearning or offer systems specific to your needs. Scalability is also fast becoming a standard requirement in our field (although some will disagree with me ;) ). I think the big issue for you, as Edward had mentionned, is how much custom development do you really need (or can risk). My philosophy is that it's best to customize than build. Interwoven probably has something for you although I can't seem to find it: http://www.interwoven.com/solutions/industry/education.html Anyone know of eLearning projects built with Interwoven? I don't see online courses at med.upenn.edu . a. Andre Milton www.mlore.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cms-list-admin@;cms-list.org]On Behalf Of Lionel Laratte Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:41 PM To: 'Edward Shenderovich'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [cms-list] Interwoven Teamsite vs. Thanks for the advice. Those questions will be carefully considered in my evaluation. We are a knowledge management department and the idea is to create an internal knowledge and education portal. Thanks again; it's beginning to look like Interwoven which was my leaning because it affords scalability. Lionel -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma. --__--__-- -- http://cms-list.org/ End of cms-list Digest -- http://cms-list.org/ trim your replies for good karma.
