jwakely added inline comments.
================ Comment at: clang/include/clang/Basic/TokenKinds.def:528 +TYPE_TRAIT_1(__is_nothrow_copy_constructible, IsNothrowCopyConstructible, KEYCXX) +TYPE_TRAIT_1(__is_trivially_copy_constructible, IsTriviallyCopyConstructible, KEYCXX) TYPE_TRAIT_2(__reference_binds_to_temporary, ReferenceBindsToTemporary, KEYCXX) ---------------- cjdb wrote: > ldionne wrote: > > cjdb wrote: > > > erichkeane wrote: > > > > royjacobson wrote: > > > > > erichkeane wrote: > > > > > > cjdb wrote: > > > > > > > erichkeane wrote: > > > > > > > > So this one is a whole 'thing'. The Clang definition of > > > > > > > > 'trivially copy constructible' is a few DRs behind. We should > > > > > > > > probably discuss this with libcxx to make sure use of this > > > > > > > > wouldn't be broken. > > > > > > > I'd prefer to get those DRs in before finalising D135238 and > > > > > > > subsequent ones. Do you know the DR numbers I should be looking > > > > > > > at, or should I just poke npaperbot? > > > > > > Not off the top of my head, Aaron and I both poked at it at one > > > > > > point trying to get trivially constructible right at one point, but > > > > > > I think we both gave up due to the ABI/versioning concerns. > > > > > Maybe DR1734? Although it's about the trivially copyable trait, not > > > > > trivially copy constructible. > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I think that was the DR, that number sounds familiar. > > > The `__is_trivially_*` traits were, in part, what inspired the Great > > > Split of D116208. I could remove them for now and revisit once I rip my > > > hair out over these DRs, if that would substantially improve the chances > > > of these commits landing (other commentary notwithstanding). > > I am not sure I see a problem with the "triviality" part of this -- we > > already use a compiler builtin for `std::is_trivially_constructible`, so I > > would expect either this patch is fine, or we already have a latent bug in > > libc++. > > > > I think I can echo @philnik's comment about this not necessarily providing > > the biggest benefit since our implementation of > > `std::is_trivially_copy_constructible` is a fairly trivial wrapper on top > > of `__is_trivially_constructible`, but I wouldn't object to the patch on > > that basis. I think it would probably be possible to instead provide a set > > of basis builtin operations that we can then build all of the library type > > traits on top of -- that would provide the highest bang-for-our-buck ratio. > > > > At the same time, there's something kind of enticing in the consistency of > > defining every single type trait as a builtin, without exception. If that's > > the end goal, I think that would also be neat and we'd likely regroup all > > of our type traits under a single header, since each of them would > > literally be a one liner. > > > > There's also the question of whether GCC provides these builtins -- if they > > don't and if they don't have plans to, then we'd actually need to add > > complexity in libc++ to support both, which we would be unlikely to do > > given that there's probably not a huge compile-time performance benefit. > > > > TLDR, I think the two questions that can help gauge how much interest there > > will be from libc++ to use this are: > > > > 1. Is the plan to provide *all* the type traits as builtins? > > 2. Will GCC implement them? > > > > That being said, libc++ might not be the only potential user of these > > builtins, so I wouldn't necessarily make it a hard requirement to satisfy > > us. > > > > I think I can echo @philnik's comment about this not necessarily providing > > the biggest benefit since our implementation of > > `std::is_trivially_copy_constructible` is a fairly trivial wrapper on top > > of `__is_trivially_constructible`, but I wouldn't object to the patch on > > that basis. > > I haven't had time to do anything properly in the way of benchmarking, but > after looking at @philnik's quoted code, I see that I'd naively addressed > `__is_constructible(T, T const&)`, forgetting that `__add_lvalue_reference` > would've fixed that issue. > > > 1. Is the plan to provide *all* the type traits as builtins? > > Yes, with the possible exception of `enable_if` and `add_const` etc. (see > D116203 for why the qualifier ones aren't already in). The hardest ones will > probably be `common_type`, `common_reference`, `*invocable*`, and > `*swappable*`. The former two depend on technology that doesn't exist in > Clang yet, and the latter two are likely hard due there not being prior art. > > > 2. Will GCC implement them? > > @jwakely do you know if there can be cross-compiler synergy here? > > Which traits are you asking about, just the __is_{,trivially,nothrow}_copy_constructible ones? Or all type traits? Either way, I think the answer is no. We already use __is_{,trivially,nothrow}_constructible for the copy-constructible traits, and it works fine. I'm not aware of any problems with it. So I don't see any benefit in adding these ones. As already mentioned, it creates *more* code to maintain when using these traits, because we still have to support older versions of other compilers that don't have all the new traits yet. We've added traits for a few more things recently (`__remove_cv`, `__remove_cvref`, `__remove_reference`) but they can only be used in limited ways (you can't use them directly to implement `std::remove_cv_t` for example, because they don't mangle to the same thing, which is observable). So I'm sceptical about the benefits of implementing *every* trait as a built-in. There are some which are bottlenecks and worth doing, and some which aren't. Repository: rG LLVM Github Monorepo CHANGES SINCE LAST ACTION https://reviews.llvm.org/D135238/new/ https://reviews.llvm.org/D135238 _______________________________________________ cfe-commits mailing list cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cfe-commits