aaron.ballman added subscribers: hans, majnemer, rnk. aaron.ballman added a comment.
In D131465#3806709 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D131465#3806709>, @MaskRay wrote: > In D131465#3804893 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D131465#3804893>, @glandium > wrote: > >> This didn't change the default for msvc targets, was that expected? > > I think it is expected (but I did not know when I made the change) > > https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/reference/zc-cplusplus?view=msvc-170 > says the default is `/std:c++14`. > If I use `/Zc:__cplusplus` on godbolt.org, I get `__cplusplus => 201402`. I > think clang-cl likely wants to follow MSVC. > The relevant code is around > https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/669e508772e5e00db6285d699ee82a428dc00f32/clang/lib/Driver/ToolChains/Clang.cpp#L6628 I don't recall us sticking with the MSVC defaults the last time we bumped default language versions, but I've not gone back through email to look yet. Regardless, I don't think it's ergonomic for Clang to have a different default language standard for Windows targets -- that means when I run tests, they're all run in C++14 mode but when my coworker runs them, they're all C++17; we will assuredly run into "why does this test behave differently for you than me?" problems from diverging. Not everyone using clang is using clang-cl, so I think clang should default to the same language version for Windows as Linux. I think it's reasonable for clang-cl specifically to default to what MSVC does though. (CC @hans @majnemer @rnk to see if they recall details or have opinions.) Repository: rG LLVM Github Monorepo CHANGES SINCE LAST ACTION https://reviews.llvm.org/D131465/new/ https://reviews.llvm.org/D131465 _______________________________________________ cfe-commits mailing list cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cfe-commits