MyDeveloperDay added a comment.

I wanted to address your other points so we at least can be aligned as I 
respect your opinion.

> I'm however even more wary of adding yet another tool that will be almost the 
> same as clang-format.

Also agreed, but I see no other way forward.

> It could work if it were a drop-in replacement of clang-format, but that 
> seems to be very much wishful thinking to me.

This is exactly my suggestion. D105943: [clang-format++] Create a new variant 
of the clang-format tool to allow additional  code mutating behaviour such as 
East/West Const Fixer <https://reviews.llvm.org/D105943> will be a new 
clang-format for those that accept the fact it will modify, why those who can't 
just can't NOT turn the options on  in the first place, I'm not quite sure, but 
I'm trying to be inclusive of everyone and find a road to a solution which is 
good for those that want it and those that don't

If we create a new tool, I recommend you, I and some of the other clang-format 
regulars also be the CODE_OWNERS so we can innovate without feeling stifled.

> First, maintenance burden to verify that the two don't diverge somehow.

My aim would be to move the grunt of the  ClangFormat.cpp into lib/Format, so 
both processes could share them, the main() would effective become calling the 
same submain() but with a "Yes please mutate all you like variable"

> Secondly, the drop-in replacement wouldn't be possible without changing 
> clang-format itself (e.g. to ignore style options that are for 
> "clang-format++" only).

No I wouldn't do this, the old clang-format would ignore mutating passes the 
new one wouldn't, the style options would remain for both so they can both 
share a common .clang-format file (lets remember I don't want to do it this 
way!)

> Also, it might divide the users into clang-format camp and clang-format++ 
> camp (which may or may not be a problem).

Of course, and it would "Fragment the Community", but this is what happens when 
some want to innovate and others like it the way it is (we see this all the 
time from mailing lists to bug tracker), but it doesn't have to be this way, we 
could simply have one binary to rule them all and keep in the community that 
you and I spend a significant amount of our time giving back to.

> Lastly, I do think that clang-format can be as reliable with this patch as 
> it's now.

Me too.

> Also, I'd be a bit surprised if people used it in CI immediately after this 
> feature has landed without verifying that it doesn't break anything on their 
> codebase.

No I use CI in an advisory capacity with the -n or (--dry-run) option just to 
highlight violations not change them)


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