Gabin, Alfred,

Thank you both.

It's not that `man info` isn't enough for my purposes, I just felt that
since there exists a `man man` there should also exist an `imfo info` for
matters of symmetry.

Regarding RCA, apologies for using it. I meant an Root Cause Analysis. I
understand that this has already been done, judging from your reply, so
kindly disregard this one.

Thank you both again for seriously looking into this.

Best,
Mike

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Michail L. Liarmakopoulos, MSc

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 11:52 Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 04:51:50AM +0100, Michail L. Liarmakopoulos wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was playing today with info and man with some friends over some Discord
> > server and we discovered the following:
> >
> > *Info version:*
> > I have the info command of version 6.5:
> >
> > milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ man info | tail
> > >        This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute
> it.
> > > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
> >
> >
> > SEE ALSO
> > >        The full documentation for info is provided by the
> > > texinfo-doc-nonfree package as a Texinfo manual.  If this package is
> > > installed at your site, the command
> >
> >
> > >               info info
> >
> >
> > >        should give you access to the complete manual.  (Or, if you have
> > > Emacs, M-x info will lead to the manual.)
>
> As Alfred said there is an info manual for info.
>
> I believe that this should not be an issue in more recent versions of
> Ubuntu (or other Debian-derived distributions) due to the
> texinfo-doc-nonfree package being retired.  There's no reason they
> shouldn't
> be installing the Texinfo manuals as the licence (GFDL without Cover Texts
> or Invariant Sections) is considered free by Debian policies, AFAIK.
>
> > *Friendly feature requests:*
> > 1. Could you please write an info for the info program so that the `info
> > info` doen't return just an error message, but provides a full length
> > description about how info works, with line count larger than `man info`
> ?
>
> If the issue persists with defective Texinfo installations by
> distributions,
> perhaps we should add a message to explain if "info info" doesn't work,
> then
> the distribution is at fault.  I expect this wouldn't be an issue with
> newer
> distributions though.  It's a shame that people don't have access
> to Texinfo manuals because of past issues with the GFDL, and this is
> reflecting poorly on the Texinfo system.
>
>
> > 2. Could you please do a RCA as to why we get the error "info: No menu
> item
> > 'man' in node '(dir)Top'" when we do `info man`? I believe this shouldn't
> > be displayed.
>
> Sorry I don't know what an RCA is.  I don't believe there is a Texinfo
> manual
> for man.  There is an info page for groff which does the back-end
> processing
> for man, but man is a separate program.
>

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