Hello, I was playing today with info and man with some friends over some Discord server and we discovered the following:
*Info version:* I have the info command of version 6.5: milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ man info | tail > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. SEE ALSO > The full documentation for info is provided by the > texinfo-doc-nonfree package as a Texinfo manual. If this package is > installed at your site, the command > info info > should give you access to the complete manual. (Or, if you have > Emacs, M-x info will lead to the manual.) > info 6.5 *The issue:* In my utter disappointment I found out that when I do `info info` I get the following: milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ info info > info: No menu item 'info-stnd' in node '(dir)Top' >From the look of it, there's no info for info. But then I did man man and I got a result: milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ man man | head > MAN(1) > Manual pager utils > MAN(1) > NAME > man - an interface to the on-line reference manuals > SYNOPSIS > man [-C file] [-d] [-D] [--warnings[=warnings]] [-R > encoding] [-L locale] [-m system[,...]] [-M path] [-S list] [-e > extension] [-i|-I] [--regex|--wildcard] > [--names-only] [-a] [-u] [--no-subpages] [-P pager] [-r prompt] > [-7] [-E encoding] [--no-hyphenation] [--no-justification] [-p string] [-t] > [-T[device]] [-H[browser]] > [-X[dpi]] [-Z] [[section] page[.section] ...] ... > man -k [apropos options] regexp ... I find this insulting for the *info *community. How can you stand the fact that the *man * community has a man for their man, and yet you don't have an info for your *info*? Also, there's a `man info`, as is an `info man`. Which is nice. But I get the same weird error that I got with `info info`, when I run the `info man`. milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ man info | wc -l > 99 > milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ info man | wc -l > info: No menu item 'man' in node '(dir)Top' > 676 A friend from the friendly community I belong to pointed out that this error could mean that there isn't an info page for man, and so that the info takes the `man man` and returns it as info . But we see that there is an info page for man. I did a bit of testing to see if this hypothesis was true: milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ info man | wc -l > info: No menu item 'man' in node '(dir)Top' > 676 > milia@Newton:~/Downloads/apljk/apljk-related-repos$ man man | wc -l > 475 So, since the `info man` and `man man` have different lines, they can't be the same. Thus my friends hypothesis was wrong. The error remains though :( *Friendly feature requests:* 1. Could you please write an info for the info program so that the `info info` doen't return just an error message, but provides a full length description about how info works, with line count larger than `man info` ? 2. Could you please do a RCA as to why we get the error "info: No menu item 'man' in node '(dir)Top'" when we do `info man`? I believe this shouldn't be displayed. *System:* I run the above unix commands on a x86_64 system with the following OS: Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS Release: 18.04 Codename: bionic *Apology:* If by any effect the `info info` should work and the issue is on my system, my deepest apologies. Thank you very much for the consideration and your time. Best regards, milia#0919 -- Michail L. Liarmakopoulos, MSc Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mlliarm/>
