Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > Starting X does not make sense from a remote machine. > > Starting X sessions remotly makes perfect sense, which is what I am > talking about. Fireing up a X server remotely makes also perfect > sense, take the example that the X server crashed or you upgraded it > or whatever.
Starting an X server remotely makes sense in the case it's on the remote display. Killing an X server is usually a task for root because the process owner is root. > [...] > The point is that the separation is not on a user basis. Whoever > happens to login at the console should be allowed to use the sound > card, the floppy drive, the tape streamer, the graphics card, etc. > All others should not. > > Says you. I sure want to do my remote backs up without having to sit > at the console of the backup machine. > > This whole allowing users to do thing depending on if they have loged > in locally or not is totally a stupid topic and quite pointless. You > are essentially asking for users to be treated differently even if > they are the same user; utter stupitidy. Users should be treated > based on the permissions they have, not on what machine they have > loged in on. You trust in the users too much. Just in case a user is evil and reboots the machine before asking anybody else who is logged in. Wouldn't that be annoying? OK, a better example: You are the console user and have put a floppy with secret data in your device. Now it makes sense you can access the floppy as non-root user, but any other users shouldn't. > > Why? And how do you decide what needs "console intervention" and > > what doesn't? Isn't the point of GNU/Hurd to allow users to do > > whatever they might wish to do without screwing up for others? > > As with all operating systems, everything should be possible. It's > up to the system administrator to choose what (s)he wnats. > > And the point of the Hurd is to allow the user to decide what they > wish to do without screwing up for others. Not having the sysadmin > decide what they should be allowed todo. Thats the whole point of the > GNU project, more freedom to users. So the goal of the GNU project is chmod -R a+rwx / ?!? It's always the admin's decision to deny or allow something, regarding the convenience for the users and the potential security risk on the other hand. Though if you're talking about a stand-only machine, you may be right. Sören -- +++ Jetzt WLAN-Router für alle DSL-Einsteiger und Wechsler +++ GMX DSL-Powertarife zudem 3 Monate gratis* http://www.gmx.net/dsl _______________________________________________ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
