Follow-up Comment #17, bug #60383 (project findutils):
> it seems just to ensure that the next argv[i] is treated as a starting
point
> (regardless whether it looks like an option or not).
> Furthermore, -f seems to change the handling of the '--' argument.
>
> This seems to be a solution for the 80% case, but if one has file names
> like '--', then ...
It doesn't change the handling of --, the reference to -- in the BUGS section
of the manual is a bit misleading.
-f is an option there, like -H or -L, except it's an option that takes
arguments, it's not a predicate. So it has to be on the left hand side of --.
As -f takes a required argument (as -ffile or -f file as usual with getopt()),
it will handle any arbitrary string including --. What follows is taken as the
argument to -f whatever it is, whether it starts with - or looks like a
predicate.
It's like for grep. grep -F "$string" won't work properly for values of
$string that start with -. You need grep -F -e "$string", where "$string" is
the argument to the -e option. With grep, you can also use grep -F --
"$string", where "--" marks the end of options.
But using -- doesn't help with find, because while "--" does mark the end of
options, meaning that -L, -H, -f... can't be used afterwards, arguments
starting with - (and [!()]) still cause problems as after that --, find still
expects either file names or predicates, so -- doesn't help at all for find.
Note that I was not suggesting GNU find implements the -f option *instead* of
the -files0-from predicate, just to add it for compatibility with BSDs and so
we can eventually have a portable way to pass arbitrary file names to find.
I agree -files0-from has advantages over -f:
- the list can be fed slowly and find can start processing it as it comes
- no need to allocate and pass around a potentially huge list
- the list is not exposed in the output of ps
- not affected by E2BIG execve() limit
-f has advantages too though:
- for the very common case of invoking find on one directory, find -f "$dir"
... is less cumbersome than find -files0-from <(printf '%s\0' "$dir")
- stdin is preserved (compared to using cmd | find -files0-from -)
- cmd | find -files0-from - is potentially dangerous if cmd ends up being
aborted for instance because it reaches some resource limits. For instance it
was going to output /tmp/x/foo\0/tmp/x/bar\0 but got aborted just after it
wrote /tmp/x/foo\0/, find will end up searching / and if it was with -mtime
+30 -delete for instance, that could have disastrous consequences, maybe find
should only consider fully delimited records.
For the E2BIG limit, note that BSDs support:
printf -- '-f%s\0' "${large_list[@]}" |
xargs -r0 -J % find % ...
(here assuming a builtin printf)
That -J would be a welcome addition to GNU xargs as well.
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