On September 10, 2019 1:19:48 PM CDT, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/10/19 1:09 PM, Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 10 September 2019 19:51:22 Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/10/19 12:36 PM, Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that initd-tools is gone from BLFS and seems to have been
>>>> replaced by lsb-tools. I also noticed that BLFS bootscripts have
>been
>>>> updated with tons of fixes for dependency information, so thanks
>for all
>>>> the work on that!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, I noticed that lsb-tools is implemented in python3, which
>of
>>>> course is no problem for the book, as python3 is needed for
>meson/ninja
>>>> in lfs already.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My own personal problem is that my lfs/blfs-based distro does
>contain
>>>> initd-tools in the minimal install I use for my routers, but not
>>>> python3, and I'd like to keep it that way, for size and security
>reasons
>>>> (less software means less bugs).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, what I wanted to ask:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In what functional way do the new python-based install_initd and
>>>> remove_initd differ from the old, c-based ones?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will the old ones not be able to correctly manage the new BLFS init
>>>> scrips due to missing functionality?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And if not, what is missing from the old ones? I would then try to
>add
>>>> this to initd-tools, so I can still use those.
>>>
>>> For a minimal install on a router why do you need to install a boot
>>> script at all?  For LFS based systems you can always use 'make
>>> install=<package> from the bootscripts tarball.
>> 
>> Because I like to activate init scrips using install_initd and l also
>
>> don' t have "make" on my routers.
>> As my routers do dns/dhcp server, iptables, rely on ntp for time, use
>
>> nginx for the web interface and ssh for administration, etc etc, I do
>
>> have the need to manage bootscripts.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm also really not in anyway complaining about the switch to python,
>I 
>> just have a specific use-case and wanted to know how I can stay as
>close 
>> to lfs/blfs as possible while still be able to handle my differences.
>> 
>> I naturally would be completely lost maintaining my own distro
>without 
>> such a great upstream as lfs/blfs, so forgive me if I stepped on any
>toes.
>
>No toes. :)
>
>Your distro, your rules.
>
>I'd suggest just using the previous version of lsb_release for your 
>custom installations.
>
>   -- Bruce
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:-) I wear steel toes! No seriously, if you want to poke around with the old 
ones, that's fine, but probably not necessary in your case. Just remove $first 
from mountvirtfs and you should be good as long as no DMs.

--DJ

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