Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, until 
I’m ready to go to OS 11?

-Nathan Paxton

Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from my 
iPhone"

> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it 
> very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside 
> Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS Big 
>> Sur (11.5.2)?
>> —G
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
>>> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>>> 
>>>     I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
>>> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>>> 
>>> -N
>>> <BibDesk_2021-09-10-192932_MacintoshNAP.cpu_resource.diag>
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Nathan Paxton
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>>> dark to read.
>>>     —Mark Twain
>>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have uploaded a test version to 
>>>> <https://bibdesk.sourceforge.io/BibDesk.dmg>. Perhaps you can download it 
>>>> and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently.
>>>> 
>>>> Christiaan
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I 
>>>>> assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib 
>>>>> file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it 
>>>>> opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall 
>>>>> navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the 
>>>>> entries.
>>>>> 
>>>>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
>>>>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and 
>>>>> CPU ramp up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>>>> Rowan University
>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>>>> 
>>>>> SCI 130E
>>>>> 856-256-4391
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.  
>>>>>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
>>>>>> file it hangs.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file 
>>>>>> first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>>>>>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group 
>>>>>>> table?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the 
>>>>>>>> group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
>>>>>>>> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive 
>>>>>>>> for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Does that help any? 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea 
>>>>>>>>>> what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a 
>>>>>>>>>> sample from someone who has this problem.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
>>>>>>>>>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
>>>>>>>>>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in 
>>>>>>>>>>> trying to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any 
>>>>>>>>>>> work with it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and 
>>>>>>>>>>> rising.]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>>>>>>>>>> Rowan University
>>>>>>>>>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>>>>>>>>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> SCI 130E
>>>>>>>>>>> 856-256-4391
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Strange, I am having no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and send it to me off list?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BibDesk does open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BibTeX files, I too get Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that is has an impact.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spinning beach ball :(  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or by visiting the BibDesk home page at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or by following the link below, which will begin immediate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those interested follow the full release notes for this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  New preference to hide group highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Contextual menu when searching file content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Restore favicon in browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Save file links using modern bookmark data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bugs Fixed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve UI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix undo of moving bookmarks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix toggle for detail editor side bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts with a URL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve table UIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve animation of control views
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Improve efficiency of UI updating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix Journal field from RIS import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Fix opening files in some cases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   *  Try not to collapse last column in main table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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