To a certain extent, faster Ethernet is more likely to be a commodity – and at 
rates above 1 Gbps, there’s substantial “art” in making a PHY that works 
reliably.   At the 10G speed, there’s things like RapidIO and SRIO, but they

  1.  Only work for short distances (<<1 meter)
  2.  Are *very* board layout and other implementation sensitive.  Fine for 
getting in and out of a package, but not great for running any distance.
Then there’s XAUI (pronounced Zowie!) which is a multiwire wire interface 
between logic and 10G (or whatever) PHY.   But it’s got the same problems as 
SRIO/RapidIO (or for that matter, the venerable (now) TLK2711 SERDES).

10G and 40G Ethernet do actually work over distances of meters, and over some 
moderate range of temperatures, and are likely to meet EMI/EMC requirements.

It is interesting that there doesn’t seem to be the same commercial pressure 
for optical versions. They all exist, but typically as modules you’d slide into 
your switch, not components you’d solder to a board.  And there are plenty of 
XAUI->optical kinds of interfaces.  And optical cables are cheap and relatively 
rugged.


From: Beowulf <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org> On Behalf Of Scott Atchley
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 7:18 AM
To: Larry Stewart <stew...@serissa.com>
Cc: Mark Hahn <h...@mcmaster.ca>; beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Beowulf] anyone have modern interconnect metrics?

While I was at Myricom, the founder, Chuck Seitz, used to say that there was 
Ethernet and Ethernot. He tied Myricom's fate to Ethernet's 10G PHYs.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 9:08 AM Larry Stewart 
<stew...@serissa.com<mailto:stew...@serissa.com>> wrote:
I don't know what the networking technology of the future will be like, but it 
will be called Ethernet.
- unknown (to me)

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