On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 05:59:11AM +0000, Jonathan Aquilina via Beowulf wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Im probably a bit late to the party. What is going on with CentOS? As I am > not quite understanding whats happening. > > To be fair I am at the point where I am running through my mind the creation > of my own distro based off fedora/Centos Stream (once I know what it is) > > For me the biggest thing for sticking with Centos and RHEL derivatives is due > to security features like SEL amongst other things as well there are some > interesting developments that I need to try out such as podman (docker > alternative) > > Regards, > Jonathan >
SE Linux - is supported in other distributions now. If you have to have it - Government / big lab - it's probably Red Hat or nothing, but there are alternatives (and Red Hat / Oracle are often last to the party with other CVE fixing). CentOS - going away, EOL as CentOS 2021 rather than 2029. CentOS Streams becoming a rolling distribution feeding the six monthly RH update. Andy C > From: Beowulf <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org> On Behalf Of Tim Cutts > Sent: 09 December 2020 02:08 > To: Prentice Bisbal <pbis...@pppl.gov> > Cc: Beowulf <beowulf@beowulf.org> > Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT] > > I don’t know how often we ever actually used Red Hat support for RHEL itself. > Very rarely, I suspect. Even before they hiked the price on us, I expect we > effectively paid them several thousand dollars per support call. > > Some of the other products, like RH OpenStack Platform, yes, but not for the > OS itself. > > Tim > > > On 8 Dec 2020, at 22:25, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf > <beowulf@beowulf.org<mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org>> wrote: > > I think it has mostly to do with user support. The biggest innovation on > moving from Red Hat Linux to Red Hat *Enterprise* Linux was the addition of > user support. Corporations like having someone to call when something goes > wrong. No one wants to hear "read the source" when the corporate mailserver > is down and 5,000 employees are no longer productive. > > Red Hat providing user support was actually a big deal for the Linux > community. In the early days of Linux, many 3rd parties tried to make Linux > acceptable to corporate users by providing Linux support services, but they > never really caught. Probably because they weren't tied to a particular > distro, so they weren't perceived as as "expert" as when the vendor itself is > providing support. > > On top of that, Red Hat worked with hardware and software vendors to get them > to support their products on Red Hat. It wasn't long after RHEL was > introduced that you started seeing hardware and software advertising that it > was supported on RHEL. > > Combine these two, and you have a recipe for success: People are more likely > to use a version of Linux that comes with user support and that they know is > supported by the hardware/software they use. > > To this day, I rarely see hardware/software advertised/documented as > supporting anything other than RHEL. Fortunately, many of those vendors would > treat CentOS and Scientific Linux the same as RHEL for support reasons. At > least that has been my experience. > > Prentice > > On 12/8/20 4:50 PM, Jörg Saßmannshausen wrote: > > Dear all, > > what I never understood is: why are people not using Debian? > > I done some cluster installation (up to 100 or so nodes) with Debian, more or > less out of the box, and I did not have any issue with it. I admit, I might > have missed out something I don't know about, the famous unkown-unkowns, but > by enlarge the clusters were running rock solid with no unusual problem. > I did not use Lustre or GPFS etc. on it, I only played around a bit with BeeFS > and some GlusterFS in a small scale. > > Just wondering, as people mentioned Ubuntu. > > All the best from a dark London > > Jörg > > Am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2020, 21:12:02 GMT schrieb Christopher Samuel: > > On 12/8/20 1:06 pm, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf wrote: > > I wouldn't be surprised if this causes Scientific Linux to come back > into existence. > It sounds like Greg K is already talking about CentOS-NG (via the ACM > SIGHPC syspro Slack): > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_posts_gmkurtzer-5Fcentos-2Dproject-2Dshifts-2Dfocus-2Dto-2Dcent&d=DwIGaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=gSesY1AbeTURZwExR_OGFZlp9YUzrLWyYpGmwAw4Q50&m=1zMuvRcDfPSs1bANcWt31ZL0d4u1U_-l2LyThS2cBqA&s=dlpDfQGFW4_JAdHq9LqE8XQAhSP4ETJdIFc5Dh25uzg&e= > os-stream-activity-6742165208107761664-Ng4C > > All the best, > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org<mailto:Beowulf@beowulf.org> > sponsored by Penguin Computing > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__beowulf.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_beowulf&d=DwIGaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=gSesY1AbeTURZwExR_OGFZlp9YUzrLWyYpGmwAw4Q50&m=1zMuvRcDfPSs1bANcWt31ZL0d4u1U_-l2LyThS2cBqA&s=-qrFlEZBGdQyFI3eD2It98GBSbYU_AHTsX9JX16vTQM&e= > > -- > Prentice Bisbal > Lead Software Engineer > Research Computing > Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.pppl.gov&d=DwIGaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=gSesY1AbeTURZwExR_OGFZlp9YUzrLWyYpGmwAw4Q50&m=1zMuvRcDfPSs1bANcWt31ZL0d4u1U_-l2LyThS2cBqA&s=OLkw1toryrQl2g94ZNH2thHpCsYM1rlF30AXaiqMpCM&e= > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org<mailto:Beowulf@beowulf.org> > sponsored by Penguin Computing > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__beowulf.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_beowulf&d=DwIGaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=gSesY1AbeTURZwExR_OGFZlp9YUzrLWyYpGmwAw4Q50&m=1zMuvRcDfPSs1bANcWt31ZL0d4u1U_-l2LyThS2cBqA&s=-qrFlEZBGdQyFI3eD2It98GBSbYU_AHTsX9JX16vTQM&e= > > -- The Wellcome Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a > charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in > England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, > London, NW1 2BE. > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > https://beowulf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beowulf _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit https://beowulf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beowulf
