On 5/8/19 2:13 PM, Gus Correa wrote:


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jörg Saßmannshausen <sassy-w...@sassy.formativ.net <mailto:sassy-w...@sassy.formativ.net>> wrote:

    Dear all,

    I think the answer to the question lies here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenACC

    As I follow these things rather loosely, my understanding was that
    OpenACC
    should run on both nVidia and other GPUs. So maybe that is the
    reason why it
    is a 'pure' AMD cluster where both GPUs and CPUs are from the same
    supplier?
    IF all of that is working out and if it is really true that you
    can compile
    and run OpenACC code on both types of GPUs, it would a be big win
    for AMD.

    Time will tell!

    All the best from my TARDIS!

    Jörg


Once upon a time portability, interoperabiilty, standardization, were considered good software and hardware attributes.
Whatever happened to them?
Competition and vendor lock-in.

    Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019, 16:59:48 BST schrieben Sie:
    > >   I think it is interesting that they are using AMD for
    > >
    > > both the CPUs and GPUs
    >
    > I agree. That means a LOT of codes will have to be ported from
    CUDA to
    > whatever AMD uses. I know AMD announced their HIP interface to
    convert
    > CUDA code into something that will run on AMD processors, but I
    don't
    > know how well that works in theory. Frankly, I haven't heard
    anything
    > about it since it was announced at SC a few years ago.
    >
    > I would not be surprised if AMD pursued this bid quite agressively,
    > possibly at a significant loss, for the opportunity to prove
    their GPUs
    > can compete with NVIDIA and demonstrate that codes can be
    successfully
    > converted from CUDA to something AMD GPUs can use to demonstrate GPU
    > users don't need to be locked in to a single vendor. If so, this
    could
    > be a costly gamble for the DOE and AMD, but if it pays off, I
    imagine it
    > could change AMD's fortunes in HPC.
    >
    >   "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" doesn't apply just to cars.
    >
    > Prentice
    >
    > On 5/7/19 4:43 PM, Jörg Saßmannshausen wrote:
    > > Hi Prentice,
    > >
    > > that looks interesting and I hope it means I will finally get
    the neutron
    > > structure which was measured last year there! :-)
    > >
    > > On a more serious note: I think it is interesting that they
    are using AMD
    > > for both the CPUs and GPUs. It sounds at least very fast of
    what they
    > > want to build, lets hope their design will work as planned as
    well.
    > >
    > > All the best from London
    > >
    > > Jörg
    > >
    > > Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019, 10:32:42 BST schrieb Prentice Bisbal
    via
    Beowulf:
    > >> ORNL's Frontier System has been announced:
    > >>
    > >>
    https://www.hpcwire.com/2019/05/07/cray-amd-exascale-frontier-at-oak-ridg
    > >> e/

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