A consumer product has to provide more than performance. For example, just last night I ordered a WYSE thin client to send to a friend for her kids to use. It cost me $20.00. New, it is still available as a $400.00 machine. The new/used price change (in four years with an unknown amount of use) is -95%.
Does that make you think twice about putting your newest ideas on a government shelf? I like the link above: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X87 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X87> I had no idea x86 began its life as a co-processor chip, now it is not even a product at all. Of course I could have missed it, in the eighties unless it had to do with Pitfall or Zork I was oblivious. Jonathan On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Scott Atchley <e.scott.atch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some of the research has already made it into products and more is slated > for future products. As with all research, some did not pan out, but that > is to be expected. > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:58 AM, C Bergström <cbergst...@pathscale.com> > wrote: > >> Actually, the better question is, which vendor received funds and >> actually made a useful solution that can go production with the >> deliverables. From my view it seems like history is repeating itself[1] and >> I wish more people would wake up. The top down approach to funding >> scientific research and the in-fighting between labs is just too much >> nonsense. If these research projects were a start-up, it would have failed >> hard. >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X87 >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Scott Atchley <e.scott.atch...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Hmm, can you name a large processor vendor who has not accepted US >>> government research funding in the last five years? See DOE's FastForward, >>> FastForward2, DesignForward, DesignForward2, and now PathForward. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jonathan Engwall < >>> engwalljonathanther...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe they felt married to government sponsorship while the competition >>>> has found a way to compete with itself. >>>> http://www.nag.co.za/2017/10/26/amd-launches-ryzen-processor >>>> -with-radeon-vega-graphics-for-notebooks/ >>>> Maybe such a huge contract even looks too good to be true. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:06 AM, Mikhail Kuzminsky <k...@free.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately I did not find the english version, but Andreas >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Essentially yes Xeon Phi is not continued, but a new design called >>>>>> Xeon-H is coming. >>>>>> >>>>> Yes, and Xeon-H has close to KNL codename - Knights Cove. May be some >>>>> important (for HPC) microarchitecture features will remain. >>>>> But in any case stop of Xeon Phi give pluses for new NEC SX-Aurora. >>>>> >>>>> Mikhail Kuzminsky >>>>> >>>>> Zelinsky Institute >>>>> of Organic Chemistry >>>>> Moscow >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin >>>>> Computing >>>>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>>>> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin >>>> Computing >>>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>>> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing >>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >>> >>> >> >
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