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On 9/21/12 11:42 AM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
> No, you think it's a lie.
>
> This is inappropriate for this list.
>
> --
> Prentice
>
> On 09/21/2012 11:16 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>> you post something about HPC in iceleand, but we all know that's a lie.
>> That's what i wrote.
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
>>
>>> Vincent,
>>>
>>> The beowulf mailing list is for discussing matters related Linux beowulf
>>> clusters, and HPC in general. In practice, this list has always allowed
>>> a lot of leeway and discussions often veer of tangentially into the
>>> science, technology, and the business/politics surrounding HPC.
>>>
>>> Even with the large amount of leeway observed on this list, your post
>>> below is inappropriate. After reading it several times, your post
>>> appears to contain nothing more than a political attack on Germany. I
>>> can find nothing in your post related to Linux clusters, HPC, science or
>>> technology.
>>>
>>> There are plenty of forums on the Internet for discussing politics. This
>>> is not one of them. Please post your political attacks elsewhere.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Prentice
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/21/2012 10:21 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>> Typical German marketing.
>>>>
>>>> Say A, do B.
>>>>
>>>> Knowing how German industry works, they probably will deploy one
>>>> computer there when they sell a few more BMW's in Iceland.
>>>> In the meantime their top secret crunching runs on browncoals in
>>>> Germany of course.
>>>>
>>>> A lot cheaper than 4.3 cents a kilowatt hour browncoals are.
>>>>
>>>> An article today in the newspaper suggested German Minister Altmaier
>>>> announced more or less he wants to quit solar panel
>>>> subsidies, and for now announces to dramatically lower it,
>>>> which of course in combination with getting rid of nuclear reactors
>>>> means they're gonna burn even more coals in Germany,
>>>> as *somewhere* they need this huge amount of energy for their
>>>> industry. We're speaking about a 50000 megawatt or so.
>>>>
>>>> Usually they calculate with householeds and ignore the 90-95% of
>>>> energy that companies and especially industry consumes...
>>>>
>>>> Germany is world champion in saying A and doing B.
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another news article about datacenters and HPC in Iceland.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Prentice
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2012-09-20/
>>>>> bmw_finds_cool_locale_for_hpc_cluster.html
>>>>> September 20, 2012
>>>>>
>>>>> BMW Finds Cool Locale for HPC Cluster
>>>>> Robert Gelber
>>>>>
>>>>> Automaker BMW is getting ready to deploy an HPC cluster to run
>>>>> simulations for designing it next-generation ultimate driving
>>>>> machines. As with any supercomputing installation, this one is
>>>>> bound to consume plenty of energy, which translates to high
>>>>> operational expenses. So the car company decided to search for an
>>>>> efficient and environmentally friendly plan to manage their system.
>>>>> They settled on locating the machine at Verne Global’s Ásbrú
>>>>> datacenter in Iceland.
>>>>>
>>>>> September 20, 2012
>>>>> BMW Finds Cool Locale for HPC Cluster
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Gelber
>>>>>
>>>>> Automaker BMW is getting ready to deploy an HPC cluster to run
>>>>> simulations for designing it next-generation ultimate driving
>>>>> machines. As with any supercomputing installation, this one is
>>>>> bound to consume plenty of energy, which translates to high
>>>>> operational expenses. So the car company decided to search for an
>>>>> efficient and environmentally friendly plan to manage their system.
>>>>> They settled on locating the machine at Verne Global’s Ásbrú
>>>>> datacenter in Iceland.
>>>>>
>>>>> The country has become an interesting option for datacenter users
>>>>> because of its perpetually cool climate and cheap energy.
>>>>> Electricity in the island nation costs roughly 4.3 cents per
>>>>> kilowatt-hour, thanks to an abundance of renewable energy sources.
>>>>> The country generates most of its electricity from glacier-fed
>>>>> rivers and geothermal vents. Given these resources, it’s no
>>>>> surprise that Verne Global decided to setup their large scale
>>>>> computing facility at an abandoned NATO Air Force base located in
>>>>> the city of Keflavík.
>>>>>
>>>>> Data Center Knowledge reported that Mario Mueller, BMW’s vice
>>>>> president of IT infrastructure and chair at the Open Data Center
>>>>> Alliance (ODCA), brought up the company’s plans at this year’s
>>>>> Intel Developer Forum. The car company will be Verne Global’s fifth
>>>>> customer after CCP Games, Datapipe, Opin Kerfi and GreenQloud.  It
>>>>> will also follow ODCA usage models to guide the cluster’s build.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is certainly not the first time a company or organization has
>>>>> considered alternative approaches to providing energy and cooling
>>>>> to a large computing installation. Apple is utilizing solar panels
>>>>> and methane gas from a local landfill to generate electricity for
>>>>> their iCloud datacenter. The Texas Advanced Computing Center (TACC)
>>>>> deployed a top 10 cluster in an oil submersion cooling system and
>>>>> Facebook built one of the world’s most efficient datacenters in
>>>>> Prineville Oregon using designs from the Open Compute Project.The
>>>>> country has become an interesting option for datacenter users
>>>>> because of its perpetually cool climate and cheap energy.
>>>>> Electricity in the island nation costs roughly 4.3 cents per
>>>>> kilowatt-hour, thanks to an abundance of renewable energy sources.
>>>>> The country generates most of its electricity from glacier-fed
>>>>> rivers and geothermal vents. Given these resources, it’s no
>>>>> surprise that Verne Global decided to setup their large scale
>>>>> computing facility at an abandoned NATO Air Force base located in
>>>>> the city of Keflavík.
>>>>>
>>>>> Data Center Knowledge reported that Mario Mueller, BMW’s vice
>>>>> president of IT infrastructure and chair at the Open Data Center
>>>>> Alliance (ODCA), brought up the company’s plans at this year’s
>>>>> Intel Developer Forum. The car company will be Verne Global’s fifth
>>>>> customer after CCP Games, Datapipe, Opin Kerfi and GreenQloud.  It
>>>>> will also follow ODCA usage models to guide the cluster’s build.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is certainly not the first time a company or organization has
>>>>> considered alternative approaches to providing energy and cooling
>>>>> to a large computing installation. Apple is utilizing solar panels
>>>>> and methane gas from a local landfill to generate electricity for
>>>>> their iCloud datacenter. The Texas Advanced Computing Center (TACC)
>>>>> deployed a top 10 cluster in an oil submersion cooling system and
>>>>> Facebook built one of the world’s most efficient datacenters in
>>>>> Prineville Oregon using designs from the Open Compute Project.
>>>>>
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