No, you think it's a lie. This is inappropriate for this list.
-- Prentice On 09/21/2012 11:16 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > you post something about HPC in iceleand, but we all know that's a lie. > That's what i wrote. > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: > >> Vincent, >> >> The beowulf mailing list is for discussing matters related Linux beowulf >> clusters, and HPC in general. In practice, this list has always allowed >> a lot of leeway and discussions often veer of tangentially into the >> science, technology, and the business/politics surrounding HPC. >> >> Even with the large amount of leeway observed on this list, your post >> below is inappropriate. After reading it several times, your post >> appears to contain nothing more than a political attack on Germany. I >> can find nothing in your post related to Linux clusters, HPC, science or >> technology. >> >> There are plenty of forums on the Internet for discussing politics. This >> is not one of them. Please post your political attacks elsewhere. >> >> -- >> Prentice >> >> >> On 09/21/2012 10:21 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> Typical German marketing. >>> >>> Say A, do B. >>> >>> Knowing how German industry works, they probably will deploy one >>> computer there when they sell a few more BMW's in Iceland. >>> In the meantime their top secret crunching runs on browncoals in >>> Germany of course. >>> >>> A lot cheaper than 4.3 cents a kilowatt hour browncoals are. >>> >>> An article today in the newspaper suggested German Minister Altmaier >>> announced more or less he wants to quit solar panel >>> subsidies, and for now announces to dramatically lower it, >>> which of course in combination with getting rid of nuclear reactors >>> means they're gonna burn even more coals in Germany, >>> as *somewhere* they need this huge amount of energy for their >>> industry. We're speaking about a 50000 megawatt or so. >>> >>> Usually they calculate with householeds and ignore the 90-95% of >>> energy that companies and especially industry consumes... >>> >>> Germany is world champion in saying A and doing B. >>> >>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: >>> >>>> Another news article about datacenters and HPC in Iceland. >>>> -- >>>> Prentice >>>> >>>> http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2012-09-20/ >>>> bmw_finds_cool_locale_for_hpc_cluster.html >>>> September 20, 2012 >>>> >>>> BMW Finds Cool Locale for HPC Cluster >>>> Robert Gelber >>>> >>>> Automaker BMW is getting ready to deploy an HPC cluster to run >>>> simulations for designing it next-generation ultimate driving >>>> machines. As with any supercomputing installation, this one is >>>> bound to consume plenty of energy, which translates to high >>>> operational expenses. So the car company decided to search for an >>>> efficient and environmentally friendly plan to manage their system. >>>> They settled on locating the machine at Verne Global’s Ásbrú >>>> datacenter in Iceland. >>>> >>>> September 20, 2012 >>>> BMW Finds Cool Locale for HPC Cluster >>>> >>>> Robert Gelber >>>> >>>> Automaker BMW is getting ready to deploy an HPC cluster to run >>>> simulations for designing it next-generation ultimate driving >>>> machines. As with any supercomputing installation, this one is >>>> bound to consume plenty of energy, which translates to high >>>> operational expenses. So the car company decided to search for an >>>> efficient and environmentally friendly plan to manage their system. >>>> They settled on locating the machine at Verne Global’s Ásbrú >>>> datacenter in Iceland. >>>> >>>> The country has become an interesting option for datacenter users >>>> because of its perpetually cool climate and cheap energy. >>>> Electricity in the island nation costs roughly 4.3 cents per >>>> kilowatt-hour, thanks to an abundance of renewable energy sources. >>>> The country generates most of its electricity from glacier-fed >>>> rivers and geothermal vents. Given these resources, it’s no >>>> surprise that Verne Global decided to setup their large scale >>>> computing facility at an abandoned NATO Air Force base located in >>>> the city of Keflavík. >>>> >>>> Data Center Knowledge reported that Mario Mueller, BMW’s vice >>>> president of IT infrastructure and chair at the Open Data Center >>>> Alliance (ODCA), brought up the company’s plans at this year’s >>>> Intel Developer Forum. The car company will be Verne Global’s fifth >>>> customer after CCP Games, Datapipe, Opin Kerfi and GreenQloud. It >>>> will also follow ODCA usage models to guide the cluster’s build. >>>> >>>> This is certainly not the first time a company or organization has >>>> considered alternative approaches to providing energy and cooling >>>> to a large computing installation. Apple is utilizing solar panels >>>> and methane gas from a local landfill to generate electricity for >>>> their iCloud datacenter. The Texas Advanced Computing Center (TACC) >>>> deployed a top 10 cluster in an oil submersion cooling system and >>>> Facebook built one of the world’s most efficient datacenters in >>>> Prineville Oregon using designs from the Open Compute Project.The >>>> country has become an interesting option for datacenter users >>>> because of its perpetually cool climate and cheap energy. >>>> Electricity in the island nation costs roughly 4.3 cents per >>>> kilowatt-hour, thanks to an abundance of renewable energy sources. >>>> The country generates most of its electricity from glacier-fed >>>> rivers and geothermal vents. Given these resources, it’s no >>>> surprise that Verne Global decided to setup their large scale >>>> computing facility at an abandoned NATO Air Force base located in >>>> the city of Keflavík. >>>> >>>> Data Center Knowledge reported that Mario Mueller, BMW’s vice >>>> president of IT infrastructure and chair at the Open Data Center >>>> Alliance (ODCA), brought up the company’s plans at this year’s >>>> Intel Developer Forum. The car company will be Verne Global’s fifth >>>> customer after CCP Games, Datapipe, Opin Kerfi and GreenQloud. It >>>> will also follow ODCA usage models to guide the cluster’s build. >>>> >>>> This is certainly not the first time a company or organization has >>>> considered alternative approaches to providing energy and cooling >>>> to a large computing installation. Apple is utilizing solar panels >>>> and methane gas from a local landfill to generate electricity for >>>> their iCloud datacenter. The Texas Advanced Computing Center (TACC) >>>> deployed a top 10 cluster in an oil submersion cooling system and >>>> Facebook built one of the world’s most efficient datacenters in >>>> Prineville Oregon using designs from the Open Compute Project. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin >>>> Computing >>>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>>> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin >>> Computing >>> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >>> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf >> _______________________________________________ >> Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing >> To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit >> http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf