On 10/22/2011 08:02 AM, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote: > On 10/21/11 15:14, Andrew Piskorski wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 09:10:18AM -0400, Prentice Bisbal wrote: >> >>> My opinion is these these are shared resources, and if you aren't >>> interactively using them, you should log out to free up resources for >>> others. >> "running under screen" != "non-interactive". > What I think Prentice was pointing out here was more along the lines of: > "non-interactive" >= "running under screen" <= interactive > Where interactivity is more of a spectrum than a != or =. More > pointedly, he stated his users are acting in a non-interactive manner, > in some cases even after they leave, which is irresponsible at all > levels. Obviously he has to balance a rule-set between the good users > and the bad users, such that abuse isn't quite as easy.
Thanks for coming to my defense, Ellis. I don't think I could have explained it better myself. >>> I would like to remove screen from my environment entirely to prevent >>> this. My fellow sysadmins here agree. I'm expecting massive backlash >>> from the users. >> No shit. If you allow users to login at all, then (IMNSHO) removing >> screen is insane. That's not a solution to your problem, that's >> creating a totally new problem and pretending it's a solution. > Insane? I mean, I do a lot of work on a bunch of different distros and > hardware types, and have found little use for screen /unless/ I was on a > really, really poor internet connection that cut out on the minutes > level. Can you give some examples regarding something you can do with > screen you cannot do with nohup and tail? I agree. I've been a professional sys admin using Unix/Linux day in and day out for well over 10 years, and not one days has gone by where I saw a need for screen. >> I essentially always use screen whenever I ssh to any Linux box for >> any reason. > But why? Just leave a terminal open if you want interactivity, > otherwise nohup something. Perhaps I've understated screen's > usefulness, but I'm glad to be corrected/educated on it's efficacy in > this area. > > Best, > > ellis > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computing To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf
