At 07:40 AM 2/1/2007, Mark Hahn wrote:
Not true.  Distributed computing is more and more mainstream.  I think too

oh, one other snide comment about grid: I suspect the grid-fad could not have happened without the fraud perpetrated by worldcom and others during
the internet bubble.  in those days, it was popular to claim that the network
was becoming truely ubiquitous and incomprehensibly fast.  for instance:

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/grid/library/gr-heritage/#N100A6



In the long run, ubiquitous and fast IS going to be true (however, latency is something you can't get around... speed of light and all that). As long ago as 1993, I was at a conference where a speaker from AT&T commented that historical telecom pricing methods (longer distances cost more) were obsolete, since the dominant cost was in the termination, with, even then, a gross oversupply of fiber across the Atlantic. Hence the availability of cheap flat rate long distance (5c a minute anywhere, anytime).. the bulk of the system is no longer capacity limited.


I don't know about you, but in the 6 years since then, my home net connection has stayed the same speed, possibly a bit more expensive.

Interestingly, they've just rolled out FiOS (fiber to the home) in my area, which is a HUGE jump in potential bandwidth from the existing DSL or Cable Modem delivery methods. And, moderately competitive in price (5 Mbps is $40/month, including the bundled ISP kinds of features). What's fascinating is the faster tiers.. you can get 15 Mbps down/2 up for $50/mo and 30 M down/5 up for $180

Granted, these are consumer offerings and have all the usual network congestion caveats, but hey, at least they are offering 30 Mbps for the last mile, which is quite impressive.


desktop/LANs are still mostly at 100bT, with 1000bT in limited use.

But that's more driven by replacement cycles and the lack of real demand for faster speeds to the desktop. If your facility has a 1.5 Mbps pipe to the internet, giving users a 1 Gb/s won't change their performance much compared to 100 Mb/s. There's also a wiring infrastructure issue. While desktops are typically replaced on a 3 year cycle, the wiring infrastructure cycles through a bit slower, especially in smaller businesses and residential (that is, I'm not likely to start ripping out the drywall to replace the Cat 5 wiring I put in back in 1998)... and frankly, since right now, I have maybe 700 kbps at home to the internet (one way), and then a wireless connection from laptop to home network, there's not much to be gained by improving the home wiring infrastructure. (If I go with the FiOS offering though, that may prompt some re-evaluation)

Likewise, a small business with half a dozen or a dozen desktops and a couple servers isn't going to see a huge benefit from faster networking, because they're throttled by the server's disk speed, more than anything else. (assuming they're not hosting a big website, etc.)

So, you're looking at GigE making a difference in two areas: replacing cable TV (all those 20 Mbps HDTV streams) and in big companies. But even in big companies, GigE to the desktop doesn't necessarily buy you much, if you're all competing for the same server resources.

I do notice that grabbing large files off the net (ftp, RPMs, etc)
often runs at O(MBps) which is about a 10x improvement over the past 10-15 years. so the doubling time turns out to be more like 3 years
rather than 9 months.

Which is probably consistent with equipment refurbishment cycles.



in-cluster networking has improved somewhat faster, but not dramatically so.
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