Hi Ted, There is an Axis2 based production quality server called WSAS(http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) (fully opensource) from WSO2. It is based on the tomcat core and can act much more reliably than the simple Axis server.
Ajith On 10/2/07, redhatter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I could chime in on this... I see a need for a production quality > standalone Axis2 server. To assume that users of a web service are content > using Tomcat or some other J2EE container may be incorrect. From personal > experience, I have seen customers that have sworn allegiance to one > container or another and need our web service to run in their environment. > This means mimicking multiple environments to test our web services which is > time and resource intensive. A production caliber standalone Axis2 container > would alleviate the need for this additional resource drain and simplify > technical support. > > Thanks, > Ted > > > Demetris G wrote: > > > > > > Exactly ... thanks for the good feedback Anne and Amila. > > > > Anne Thomas Manes wrote: > >> You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why > >> reimplement the application container capability again when systems > >> like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on > >> solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML > >> messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or > >> servlet engine. > >> > >> If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an > >> application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or > >> Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server. > >> > >> Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only > >> for testing purposes, not for production runtime. > >> > >> Anne > >> > >> On 9/19/07, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do > >>> have a good understanding on how > >>> Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that > >>> some researchers are using the wrong > >>> terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people. > >>> These projects are the implementations > >>> of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and > >>> process their communications > >>> with the world. What people should understand is that the service > >>> implementations are not really "contained" > >>> in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for > >>> the feedback Amila. > >>> > >>> Demetris G wrote: > >>> > >>>> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web > >>>> services container - yes ? > >>>> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it > >>>> wrong. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> Demetris G wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila. > >>>>> > >>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not > >>>>>> considered a > >>>>>> stable and reliable enough > >>>>>> standalone web service container > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST > >>>>>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product. > >>>>>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It > >>>>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and > >>>>>> REST message processing capabilities. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and it should always be deployed within > >>>>>> other proven > >>>>>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone > >>>>>> server > >>>>>> you can use > >>>>>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and > >>>>>> embedded tomcat server. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also > >>>>>> Axis? Where is this documented? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single > >>>>>> web > >>>>>> service > >>>>>> > I thought > >>>>>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to > >>>>>> deploy > >>>>>> > preconfigured > >>>>>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less > >>>>>> memory and > >>>>>> > performance > >>>>>> > could be better. > >>>>>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that > >>>>>> should be tested. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and > >>>>>> what you may > >>>>>> > suggest. > >>>>>> > Thanks. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many > >>>>>> concorrent > >>>>>> > requests and performs well. > >>>>>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much > >>>>>> tested and > >>>>>> > mainly for testing purposes. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Amila. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>> > Marko Simic > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote: > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 > >>>>>> deployed in > >>>>>> > Tomcat to > >>>>>> > >> standalone version. > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > why you want to do this? > >>>>>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http > >>>>>> server in > >>>>>> > production > >>>>>> > > use. > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > Can someone, please, advise me: > >>>>>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s) > >>>>>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we > >>>>>> were > >>>>>> using > >>>>>> > DataSources > >>>>>> > >> and > >>>>>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question > >>>>>> is: is it > >>>>>> > possible to do > >>>>>> > >> in > >>>>>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some > >>>>>> other > >>>>>> approach. > >>>>>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access > >>>>>> authentication and > >>>>>> > user list > >>>>>> > >> was > >>>>>> > >> stored in mysql database. > >>>>>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and > >>>>>> authentication > >>>>>> > methods > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> Thank you in advance, > >>>>>> > >> Marko Simic > >>>>>> > >> Soft Division > >>>>>> > >> -- > >>>>>> > >> View this message in context: > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at > >>>>>> Nabble.com <http://Nabble.com> > >>>>>> > < http://Nabble.com>. > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>>>>> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > -- > >>>>>> > > Amila Suriarachchi, > >>>>>> > > WSO2 Inc. > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -- > >>>>>> > View this message in context: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > < > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at > >>>>>> Nabble.com <http://Nabble.com> > >>>>>> > < http://Nabble.com>. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -- > >>>>>> > Amila Suriarachchi, > >>>>>> > WSO2 Inc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- Amila Suriarachchi, > >>>>>> WSO2 Inc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi, > >>>>>> WSO2 Inc. > >>>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a13000387 > Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Ajith Ranabahu Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. 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