Exactly ... thanks for the good feedback Anne and Amila.
Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why
reimplement the application container capability again when systems
like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on
solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML
messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or
servlet engine.
If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an
application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or
Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server.
Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only
for testing purposes, not for production runtime.
Anne
On 9/19/07, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
have a good understanding on how
Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
some researchers are using the wrong
terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
These projects are the implementations
of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
process their communications
with the world. What people should understand is that the service
implementations are not really "contained"
in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
the feedback Amila.
Demetris G wrote:
Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
services container - yes ?
If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
wrong.
Thanks
Demetris G wrote:
That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
considered a
stable and reliable enough
standalone web service container
Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
REST message processing capabilities.
and it should always be deployed within
other proven
containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
you can use
WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
embedded tomcat server.
Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
Axis? Where is this documented?
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>
>
> On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>
>
> Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
service
> I thought
> it would be much easer for deployment/management to
deploy
> preconfigured
> standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
memory and
> performance
> could be better.
> Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
should be tested.
>
> If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
what you may
> suggest.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
concorrent
> requests and performs well.
> But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
tested and
> mainly for testing purposes.
>
> So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>
> Amila.
>
> Regards,
> Marko Simic
>
>
> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>
> >>
> >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
deployed in
> Tomcat to
> >> standalone version.
> >
> >
> > why you want to do this?
> > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
server in
> production
> > use.
> >
> > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
using
> DataSources
> >> and
> >> just passing its names to web services. Question
is: is it
> possible to do
> >> in
> >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
approach.
> >> b) we were using basic web service access
authentication and
> user list
> >> was
> >> stored in mysql database.
> >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
authentication
> methods
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >> Marko Simic
> >> Soft Division
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