On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 5:41 PM T.J. Townsend <blakkh...@archlinux.org>
wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 03:37:31PM +0300, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Tomaz Canabrava, Im a kde developer and mostly focus on
> > Konsole.
> > Other than that, I use arch Linux for the past 10 years, as my only Linux
> > distro.
> >
> > I have experience with packaging (debian, for work) but not on arch, but
> > it’s shell and that thing I can handle :)
>
> Hi Tomaz. When there are established, documented guidelines for how to do
> something in Arch Linux, they need to be followed. With no regard for how
> the application process works, with no Arch packaging experience at all,
> and with an attitude like this...
>

Don't misunderstand practicality with attitude, I have no intention of
being a pain or "that dude", you can read the rest of the e-mails I send or
focus on the nitpicks, that's a choice anyone has.


>
> > I’ll create a gpg key when/if I need, to sign the packages, if arch Linux
> > votes for me.
>
> > > I consider an application that does not meet the requirements and has
> had
> > > very little effort put in to be a waste of time.
> >
> > That’s true, and I guess I already have your -1 on the votes. Great
> meeting
> > you :)
>
> ...I'm not sure what kind of result you're expecting.
>

I was expecting an e-mail such as the one sent by Carsten Haitzler, not the
one sent by Mr. Steel.
When we are too strict about rules - without stating the reasons behind
those rules, we will drive good people away. Mr. Steel didn't bother to
search about the things I did or who I was nor did he wanted anything to
know about myself or why I wanted to join Archlinux, his e-mail was
basically a box-ticking-procedure-checking.
That's not just how people should behave within communities, as different
people behave differently and it's way more important to have an
human-factor when dealing with people.

>
> You started off your application without any interest in doing things the
> way they're always done here
>

... That's correct. It's not because they are aways done that they should
still be done that way, and yes, I have send an e-mail from my mobile phone
without signing it from GPG.
At the same time, every e-mail that I got here - even from people with the
GPG key on their signature, was unsigned.


> and then refused to fix that behavior when
> corrected.


... That's not correct. I refused to do that *with* the reply from Mr.
Steel, because I am not a robot that will do things from a list ticking all
of the boxes, However, to the answer from Mr. Carsten I changed the
attitude as appropriate, as he took the human approach.


> Consider it a -2 now.
>
"Great meeting you :)"
>

Ignoring all the attitude on the e-mail can be hard, and you are answering
the e-mail with the exact same attitude as I replied to Mr. Steel.
Still, Read the rest of the thread.

Tomaz

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