Karl has already stated more that once that this was NOT a credit card purchase. If a credit card was not used for the purchase, why would you need a Ship To address on file with the credit card company? Cory Andrews from VOIPSupply has also admitted that the sales rep who took the order made a mistake and failed to notice that a Ship To address had been supplied.
On Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:04 AM, The VoIP Connection [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know I'm running the risk of fanning the flames on an already belabored > thread here, but there is some misinformation flying around. > > Credit card fraud is an unfortunate fact of life, and it costs everyone who > isn't perpetrating it money. There is no single universally agreed on > process that will guarantee a merchant protection. If there was, somebody > would figure out how to game it. > > Different banks have different merchant account requirements, e-businesses > use different procedures to protect themselves, and of course different > businesses tolerate different levels of fraud. > > Some vendors require that items be shipped to an address on file to protect > themselves. Others (like us) do not. We have a process for validating the > card for these cases which our bank has agreed is adequate in most cases. > It's a little more time consuming but it is something that many of our > customers require. > > There was a misunderstanding, let's move on. I am really tired of seeing > "VoiPSupply Dot Com" every time I open a digest email... > > Michael Crown > Managing Partner > www.thevoipconnection.com > 321.989.6728 ext. 611 > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:00 AM > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com > > > > He is right Karl. Without the ship-to being on file with the bank.. > > the company can be held responsible for fraudulant purchases. > > > > On 5/31/05, Karl J. Vesterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm amazed that this thread keeps going... > > > > > > About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank... > > > > > > CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't have a > > > problem with it. Merisel doesn't have a problem with it. Digi-Key > > > doesn't have a problem with it... Why would Voip-Supply??? > > > > > > We accept packages every day with the same Ship-To address > > specified > > > to Voip-Supply... > > > > > > Additional comments dispursed throughout.... > > > > > > At 02:32 PM 5/27/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > On 5/27/05, Karl J. Vesterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At 08:59 AM 5/27/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > > > [ snip for brevity ] > > > > I just wanted to clarify ... this isn't a > > voipsupply.com problem > > > at all, > but > rather a courier screwup... which > > happens anywhere > > > and at anytime... > > > right? > > > > > > > > TWO screw ups in the shipment. > > > > 1.) It was shipped to the Bill-To address. Since there > > is no one > > > there > during the day I had to sit and wait for it lest > > it not be delivered. > > > > > > This screw up has to do with the person that ordered it, > > because they > > > didn't have the ship to address on file with their bank. > > > This was not a paypal transaction. > > > The PO had BIG BOLD LETTERS - "Ship To:" > > > > > > I'm unaware of any practices with the bank that requiring Ship-To > > > addresses to be on file with them. > > > Perhaps your financial institution is a bit different? > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.) when an order is placed on a Tuesday AM (or) Monday PM, and > > > > it's > > > > priority overnight, and it's across town, and the > > tracking number > > > was > supplied on Wednesday one would expect that it would show up > > > Thursday, not > Friday. > > > > > > See above, again this is a screw up that happened because > > of the one > > > that ordered it, by NOT having the ship to address on file > > with their > > > bank. > > > Where do you get this Ship-To on file w/ Bank idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyhow, you were already answered before that it had to do > > because YOU > > > didn't have the address on file with your bank. Why are you > > repeating > > > this lie that it is voipsupply.coms fault? > > > Be repeating it you make yourself look more like a politician or > > > media person, but certainly not someone that is in the electronic > > > engineering business. No I will not believe it because I read it > > > twice, so stop it. > > > No lie... Fact. There is a difference... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what we have here is one problem compounded by > > another, none > > > on behalf > of the courier. > > > > > > Exactly, but on behalf of the ordered. > > > > > > If you give a Ship-To address that is NOT on file with > > your bank, you > > > will NOT get it to that address, and it WILL delay shipping. > > > Gosh dang spin doctors... > > > Where does it state this??? > > > Prove it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Karl J. 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