I just want to thank you very much PJ Welsh for saying something I have wanted to say. And your right this is suppose to be the place to get help. I am new to Asterisk and I am learning the hard way. There have been some people here thinking that we are all programers or 100% Linux types. The list said user's. I am a user of the system I got this system installed and it's hard to configure it all! I am learning but there is no real help file! Some of us are using this system in the real world and would like help with it! It's not a toy. The only way that this system will grow is with good support! And at present it's very hard to get support or there is no support! I can see the future is going to be with something like Asterisk why not let it be Asterisk.
Again thank you for your comments. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: PJ Welsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:17:17 -0500 >I have to defend us newbies on this. > >This environment does not facilitate sequential knowledge building! Based on my entry >to Asterisk, I should have already known >T1/E1/VOIP/SIP/FreeWorld/H.232/X100P/PBX/FXO/FXS/channel bank etc you get the idea >(still trying to figure out "skinny"...cisco something, I know). Heck, I'm struggling >to get a grip on what and how to use/confiure SIP for linux and keep my hair. > >You don't start off with a prerequisite of knowledge to join like a class/school. You >don't have the you-must-have-asterisk-101-before going to asterisk-102 before you can >join this list. You have a forum that is GENERAL. > >I would like to a better effort to provide a more sensible way to start helping us >newbies. I have to say that the Digium handbook helped a little, but not much. I have >googled till I couldn't see straight. I just don't yet have the "big picture" that >most of you do. I couldn't even tell you if I need a channel bank or a channel >changer ;) at this point. > >A group of you seem to expect people to have a knowledge base that allows for >entering keywords to google. I don't know those keywords. You know the context to >search for when someone says I'm having a problem with insert-thing-here. > >Instead of the usual, "Search the archives". It would be more helpfull to give a hint >on what to search for. I could search for SIP and get back several hundred "answers". >Then I have to figure out where that answer lies in the series of possible answers. >Then I have to somehow figure out if it works. > >As most of you teachers (past and present) should know, not all of us learn the same. >Some people just "get" written material. Some NEED the "spoon" to make it to the next >level. Some need the hands-on experience and other's just can't learn any more than >they have already know(those people are not likely on this list, however). > >You do realize that the http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support lists the >mailing list first for support, don't you. In fact, you have to go to the second page >before you even see the google reference. More a few people tend to look for the >FIRST way to get help not ALL ways to get help... > ><flame suit on> > > >On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Dave Cotton wrote: >... >> Absolutely agree with you Steve. I left teachers training college in >> 1970. I shock some teachers when I said that in all the years since I >> haven't taught anyone anything. I've just enabled them to learn. >> The problem is that in most national education systems the teacher is >> expected to provide the answers to pass some test at the end of the >> course. Thinking is not part of the curriculum. >> -- >> Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >_______________________________________________ >Asterisk-Users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
