On Friday 24 June 2005 11:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We are on a real world... Every cyber cafe has its own little
> hacker/cracker that is sniffing out... A simple ethereal capture could
> give me a bank pin number... It is REALLY trivial!

And this is different exactly HOW with inband DTMF??  They can do the EXACT 
same thing!  If you want security don't use VOIP unless it's encrypted and/or 
over a VPN.  It's really that simple.

Please don't lecture me on "the real world" because while it's obvious that 
you are intelligent, you are also a little naive as to the application and 
difficulty level of sniffing VOIP traffic.

-A.
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