> 2- Out-of-band is as safe/unsafe as having the conversation recorded,
> including pin, by the hacker, if no encrypted voice path is being used.
> as others mentioned, DTMF tones would be very "obvious" in a trace
> (maybe someone may want to post an example).

Watch out:

http://www.asteriskbrasil.org/tiki/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=17

Denis.

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